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Been away for a few weeks so have missed what's being dished up, but just watched a few highlights.
Never mind how low we have sunk in terms of what Lee Radford has said, just how low has our ability to defend sunk? From what I have just watched it's absolutely pathetic. A lot of the players seem to have forgotten how to tackle one on one, what the hell is that all about? I also keep reading that we are unfit, unfortunately I cannot really make judgement on that watching the highlights so will reserve that judgement for Friday night. If there is a fitness issue, at least that is not too difficult to put right, with the correct attitude from the players, but do we have the correct fitness coaches in place as I believe it was a serious mistake to let Greg Brown go. Does anybody know who our fitness coaches are and what is their background?

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It was Andersons decision to replace Greg Brown. He tried to justify the change with numerous statements during preseason. Fact is the Players look Chubby and unfit, the number of games we have lost in the latter stages. The prof is there to be seen. All Coaches lives by their decisions and Anderson clearly has made a lot of bad ones including Player recruitment during his tenure.

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Of course Greg brown was replaced- it would have been a daft thing to do to leave the club without a set of conditioners. You are talking like Greg brown was sacked- it could actually be that since Greg brown had been with the Giants since he qualified from hudds uni he may have felt that he needed a fresh challenge and to add something else to his career-he may have CHOSEN to leave. You also assume that Anderson was the one making the new appointment- perhaps not!

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Quote: simonsays " Fact is the Players look Chubby and unfit, the number of games we have lost in the latter stages. The prof is there to be seen. '"


Concentration is why we are loosing games not our fitness, we aren't getting battered are we, we are losing by one or two tries scored in patches of the game.

You could arguably be the fittest team in the league it still wouldn't matter if you are gifting penalties or jumping out of the line are slipping a tackle.

Have you the BMI stats and fitness test data to prove this? I'd be interested in taking taking a look.

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Quote: simonsays "It was Andersons decision to replace Greg Brown. He tried to justify the change with numerous statements during preseason. Fact is the Players look Chubby and unfit, the number of games we have lost in the latter stages. The prof is there to be seen. All Coaches lives by their decisions and Anderson clearly has made a lot of bad ones including Player recruitment during his tenure.'"


The problem is the expansive game ain't working our precision of pass in the opponents 20m area is shocking and how many times have we set off like a house on fire but scored either no points or just six for 20 minutes of dominance then immediately conceded on the oppositions first attack.

I lost count last season home and away the number of times we fans stood up to applaud the repelling of multiple sets of six from the opposition when fighting to stay in the game or holding on to a narrow lead which usually we did.

I can count the number of times this season on one hand !!

We aren't a bad team as we can score plenty of points at times just badly organised in defence and I do agree with you apparently no where near as fit or mentally strong as last season.

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Quote: onlyanorthernsoul "Concentration is why we are loosing games not our fitness, we aren't getting battered are we, we are losing by one or two tries scored in patches of the game.

You could arguably be the fittest team in the league it still wouldn't matter if you are gifting penalties or jumping out of the line are slipping a tackle.

Have you the BMI stats and fitness test data to prove this? I'd be interested in taking taking a look.'"


I've no doubt that the BMI figures would be ok but since my first view of Jamie Ellis in the blue kit at Saints we have looked oddly shaped. Watching Eorl at Castleford blowing hard and struggling to get in the game and the fact he and Patrick played only 24 minutes at Hull and Mikey Wood less than 5 minutes at Castleford do point to the fact that the coaches inter changes aren't always the greatest and at times seem to be robot like rather than reflecting the state of the game at the time they are made.

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You have to remember a lot of these players - like Eorl- have been coming back from injury- they will take a while to get fully match fit.

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Quote: jools "You have to remember a lot of these players - like Eorl- have been coming back from injury- they will take a while to get fully match fit.'"


It shows that the squad is too lightweight as we haven't enough experienced players to plug the gap as with all due respect Nathan Mason and Josh Johnson can't plug the gaps and Larne Patrick for a man playing for a new contract ain't cutting it for me.

To avoid being negative who's faults that ?? The players ?? The fans ??

If we loan another 1-5 shirt player and not a forward it just beggars belief as it's an experienced aggressive forward we need or if not an experienced hooker and whether he likes it or not Hinchcliffe to 13 where he played in the NRL if we can't find a 13 this season.

It's not Jack Hughes we needed to replace Michael Lawrence does that nicely, it's Brett Ferres and Larne, Mason or Johnson ain't the answer!

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Quote: fartown since 1961 "I've no doubt that the BMI figures would be ok but since my first view of Jamie Ellis in the blue kit at Saints we have looked oddly shaped. '"


Agreed but you can't use Ellis as a measure of the rest of the squad, hes always looked like hes carrying a few extra pounds

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Quote: fartown since 1961 "It shows that the squad is too lightweight as we haven't enough experienced players to plug the gap as with all due respect Nathan Mason and Josh Johnson can't plug the gaps and Larne Patrick for a man playing for a new contract ain't cutting it for me.

To avoid being negative who's faults that ?? The players ?? The fans ??

If we loan another 1-5 shirt player and not a forward it just beggars belief as it's an experienced aggressive forward we need or if not an experienced hooker and whether he likes it or not Hinchcliffe to 13 where he played in the NRL if we can't find a 13 this season.

It's not Jack Hughes we needed to replace Michael Lawrence does that nicely, it's Brett Ferres and Larne, Mason or Johnson ain't the answer!'"


I'm with you on Larne, but hes all we've got the younger guys are doing ok for but perhaps its a season or two too soon for them.

Do you not think that of these players were available we would have been in for them? We have space on the cap I'm pretty sure on that, but at the moment they just aren't available. You can't sign whats not there.

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Quote: onlyanorthernsoul "I'm with you on Larne, but hes all we've got the younger guys are doing ok for but perhaps its a season or two too soon for them.

Do you not think that of these players were available we would have been in for them? We have space on the cap I'm pretty sure on that, but at the moment they just aren't available. You can't sign whats not there.'"


Yes I know that's why the Ormsby loan doesn't make sense either I totally agree with waiting for the right player but it's a forward or two we need not an outside back that was a few weeks ago we needed backs and got Foster and Tansey

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I actually think J.Johnson is ready for SL, he's looked a solid player to me this year. Pretty much the same player as Koppy but 7/8 years younger and probably a third of the salary. Agreed we need a strike second row, and while I think Bruno has shone down the right I think we have missed him in the middle!

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Quote: HuddsRL5 "I actually think J.Johnson is ready for SL, he's looked a solid player to me this year. Pretty much the same player as Koppy but 7/8 years younger and probably a third of the salary. Agreed we need a strike second row, and while I think Bruno has shone down the right I think we have missed him in the middle!'"


159 metres and 54 tackles last week for Mike a superman performance for me. Yet there are those who would still leave him out !! icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif

J. Johnson stops before he is tackled and gives away too many penalties for me

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Quote: jools "Of course Greg brown was replaced- it would have been a daft thing to do to leave the club without a set of conditioners. You are talking like Greg brown was sacked- it could actually be that since Greg brown had been with the Giants since he qualified from hudds uni he may have felt that he needed a fresh challenge and to add something else to his career-he may have CHOSEN to leave. You also assume that Anderson was the one making the new appointment- perhaps not!'"


NO it was Anderson who wanted to replace Greg Brown.

No assumption fact

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You're 100% sure on that Durham? Able to elaborate? I mean, why on Earth would the coach want rid of the conditioner who had such a fantastic track record over the last couple of seasons?

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