I was being kind of facetious, but that game I mention when he had Andrew Johns in his pocket all night is still the best I've seen him play.

He was a very talented player no doubt and has done great things for every club he has played for. My issue with him, and the reason I would never have picked him for GB/England has always been his tendancy to choke or to do something really stupid when the pressure was on him in the really important games.

In his prime you could have described him as a flawed genius. These days he is just flawed.

surely that WAS you and your mates wasn't it?, if your the coach its you who wants sacking

There is some true rubbish talked on here sometimes, Does anyone think if Brough left tomorrow the giants would suddenly learn how to play rugby. He is not the player he was that's true but you can not fault his effort nor that of most of the team, It's not effort that's lacking it's skill, They are utterly predictable in their attacking and sadly woeful in their defense most of the time, they look like they are already relegated.

If there are not changes made at the top of the club soon they will be down the tubes and it's exactly what they will deserve. HKR will not be fighting for honours this year but they are a lot better side than we are even with our fist 17 out ( if that ever happens ) We can call Brough all we want but we are paying players who only play a couple of games a season and others who's season doesn't start till August or whatever, Somebody at the club has really got his finger on the pulse and it just goes on and on and on, Talk about one step forward and two back, When rick Stone came we took one step forward in surviving , we are still on that same step two years down the line.

And yes i haven,t posted for a while ( for the man who keeps tabs ) but there are plenty of posters who are not on here twice a day and they are usually the one's who talk sense

I watched you guys play against Wakefield and last night and I think if some of you think Danny Brough is the issue then the problem ig a lot bigger than you think. In fact, i'd say in both games he was one of the stand out players for effort in your team and in the first half against Wakefield he was superb. As for last night, do you expect him to produce miracles? You wouldn't have scored for the rest of the game if you had Cooper Cronk at 7.

They do have decent off loads jools but after 2 season's under the coaching talent's of Mr Stone and Co they now don't look for the offload. It's almost as if they are being told not to offload at any cost or they'll be dropped for the next game. That's how I see the team at the moment, no ambition, no flair just 5 boring monotonous one up drives then kick. A couple of times in the second half the forwards did get an offload away and hey presto the person receiving the ball ran straight back into the ruck???????

Totally agree - I think that in both games Brough showed some spark, but there was nothing around him to catch fire. Ferguson tried, but the rest seemed to be going through the motions.

Whilst I disagree with the concept of the Middle 8s, chiefly because those in them can start recruiting immediately in the knowledge that they are safe for the next year, They do have a positive.

KR were overloaded with ageing, past their best, journeymen. Being relegated negated their contracfted and ensured the opportunity to get rid of them. Adept recruitment of younger keener players and quality experienced ones has produced a team far, far better.

Yes, the Wakefield game was a culture shock to the younger ones who were mesmorised by the pace of Superleague, but last night showed that they are recovering from this. Get rid of your Broughs ASAP and build a younger fitter team under a decent coach.

Didn't we put a bigger score past you at your place on a Monday night 5 years ago?

Don’t think anyone on here is questioning broughs effort- but his one dimensional playmaking, poor passing and decision making is the issue

If everyone showed the same competitive edge that Brough shows every game we would have no problems.
He HATES losing - the rest need to adopt the same attitude.

I disagree. The last thing we need is a whole team behaving like brough. 1 having a strop is bad enough let alone 17. I’m pretty sure they all hate losing. He handles his frustrations in the worst possible way- it negatively affects his own game and that of the team.

nothing wrong with the players effort , look at the likes of taai, ikahihifo , ferguson punching holes up the middle for us

all for that to be undone by our crap attacking structure which brough is key too

Just watched the highlights of Leeds v Saints on sky.
What a difference in the way they play compared to us. Runners everywhere, players backing up, gaps created against good defence.
Hope the giants watched it!

The stats for this game make very interesting reading, similar carries,metres, tackles made AND tackles missed (in fact KR missed a couple more than us) for both teams. We offloaded far more often and conceded fewer penalties. On those stats we should win the game- but the difference was they made loads more clean breaks which suggests we aren’t working for each other like the opposition did.
Hinchcliffe made 51 tackles- some are not pulling their weight.

Interesting stuff Jools.

The difference to me was the off the ball stuff. Rarely anyone but the ball carrier and the intended receiver moving, the rest stood still.

hull kr had a 100% completion rate in the first half.. not many teams do that nowadays