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Oh we aren't scaling down our wage bill. Gaskell is on more than most of the other players- on tonnes- more than some of our internationals have earned previously. Clough isn't being paid peanuts either.

We're not just trying to improve our squad though it's the entire club that's re-building, whatever the problems are or were that Rick alluded to after only a few weeks in the job, will take more than just swapping a few players around to sort it.

And as for the bit about him not liking the players well i've spoke to a few players since Rick took over and everyone of them had good things to say about what he was trying to do so if that's the case things must have gone downhill rapidly.
What he doesn't like is people who do not work hard enough or want to be a part of what he wants to do, hence the people who have left the club since he took over.

When did our fans become like football fans where instant success is needed or we demand a new guy in charge ?

No idea if this is true but it would not surprise me. The sheer incompetence at the club re recruitment and staffing etc is of no surprise to me.

To be fair most fans I have spoken to don't expect instant success, they just expect a decent standered of defence and to at least watch us do the basics right, Which isn't happening right now.
We know they can do it. Some are international standered but for whatever reason we can't put it together on match day. It isn't just Rick's fault. The players are to blame IF they aren't doing what he has asked. If that's the case then he needs to do what he is payed to do and get them to do it. He might need a couple of seasons to get them where he wants them to be, but basic rugby skills is expected surely.

I hope to god they are backing him and each other... if everyone isn't on the same page then it will fall apart.

o brien and mason soon fell out of favour with stone, kick up the back side for those two... obrien injured now!

How much?

try around £100,000

if its true then we are still paying very average players top dollar was the same with mason . never seem to learn

I find some of the stuff quoted on here hard to believe, Not because i think people make stuff up necessarily but because i can't believe Mr Davy hasn't got a bit more wick in his lamp than we give him credit for. He may not have a life long background in League but he has had some 20 years and he can see as well as the rest of us the standard of our players , It's easy to say we never learn and it certainly looks that way, but i just can't believe he has got where he is at today by repeatedly making the same mistakes.

The other side of that coin is that we appear to be a really really badly run club at all levels, He is the man, so you have no choice but to assume he is happy with that side of things. It's a bit of a strange situation in a sense, Mr Davy is extremely popular with the vast majority of the fans, ( including myself ) All recognize and are extremely grateful for what he has done for the Giants, and continues to do, On the other hand i would say just as many fans are baffled and disappointed with the running of the club.

I don't think any of us know what goes on on the inside of the club, Some will know more than others I'm sure ( i know nothing ) but at the end of the day everything and everyone gets judged on results ( It's the way of the world ) on the field ,off the field the bottom line is results and with the lack of actual knowledge you judge what you see.
So if we are paying silly money to Gaskell, Clough ,Hinchcliffe or anyone else there is only one man to blame, Just like Stone or Anderson before him will, and did get the blame for poor results on the field from a team he has picked, Mr Davy is responsible for the team he has picked to run his club. He certainly deserves better but he is in charge and nothing seems to change , so he must be happy with his team and nothing seems set to change anytime soon.

has rick stone been given enough time at the club with the cards hes been dealt ..takes time to get the team and things in place you want

still early yet under his tenure

Personally i don't think he has and i have said so often enough, On the other hand i have a lot of sympathy with the opinion that we should be seeing more than we are. An instance of what i mean is, Everyone can see Brierley is doing nothing at all for the side as he is being played, So why continue with it, either play a style that suits his game or drop him, Waiting for him to develop a playmaking style is going to be a long project, You have to assume RS sees something.

I suppose I was just trying to make a point that other than the player, his agent, the wages clerk and the management at the club no one will know how much any of them are on.

Spot on posts. The club needs change from top downwards but as you say its Kens money he must think its being run well

I think it will be the 2019 season when we see the benefits of Rick Stones team.

Rapira contract ends this season (2year)

The rest contract expires the end of 2018 season:

Ryan Hinchliffe (3 year)
Paul Clough (2 year)
Dale Ferguson (2year)
Tom Symonds (2 1/2 year)
Ukuama Taai (2 year extension)
Seb Ikahihifo (2 1/2 year deal)
Aaron Murphy
Danny Brough
Gene Ormsby (2/12 year deal) - (Most ridiculous signing for me to say we had Darnell ready to play last season and cant see him playing more than 2-3 games all season.)
+ our fringe Youngsters such as Jared Simpson, Mikey Wood & Liam Johnson who I feel will probably be released by then aswell.

So only Rapira playing for a new contract this season.

Personally out of that whole list I would only like to see Ukuama and Seb stay on past their contracts expiry on current form and Broughy (as a coach). Tom Symonds too...... IF he can stay fit.

Stone may get to offload some players like last season at the end of this season to free some cap space up otherwise we are going to have very little to bring some new players in next season as our quota spots are full.

Jake Mamo (2 year deal)
Shannon Wakeman (2 year deal) contracts also ends 18-19 season. However, too early to judge them and they are Stones only signings.

But by 2019 season comes around Stone (if still here) will have had chance to fully develop HIS own team.