didnt huddersfield use underhand tactics to sign craig kopchack (sp)


glass houses and all that.......

The RFL have confirmed that hull FC have registered Jake Connor for 2017.

How have Hull painted themselves into a corner? They were approached by connor's agent as he wanted a move, agreed a deal, signed him, and registered it with the RFL. If hudds and/or the player have been trying to worm him out of that deal I fail to see how Hull have done anything wrong at all. He will still be registered as a hudds player on his 22nd birthday so in what way should Hull be required to pay any fee?

You are wrong there is no grey area. it clearly states in the operational rules that,

NO COMPENSATION FOR PLAYERS OVER COMPENSATION EXPIRY DATE
C1:3:12
A Player's previous Club shall not have any right to a compensation fee in relation to any
Player who has reached or passed his Compensation Expiry Date at the date his contract
with the new club comes into effect.

So as you see its when the contract comes into affect, not when it is signed, In Connor's case the contract comes into affect after his compensation expiry date.

No idea what is going to happen, but we certainly don't owe you a fee as a poster has been claiming along, weirdly it now looks possible like Hull could claim a fee, although if I was Hull I would let Connor stay at Hull if that's what he wants to do.

One thing the resolution needs to happen fast as it will effect both teams recruitment.

How can it be effective now when he's still playing for you? Latest reports are that he told Hull yesterday he wants to stay with hudds so down to the clubs to agree an appropriate fee I would think

If it wasn't effective then surely he would be free to change his mind without recourse?
Got to say I think holding out for a fee would be a bit of a liberty. Both Connor's agent and Hull FC exploited a loophole to avoid paying a fee in the first place and now Connor's changed his mind. Chalk it down to experience and move on I say.

Let me just try to get this straight in my mind. ( bearing in mind I have been one of the Giants biggest critics over some of their past dealings )

Giants offer Conner a new deal worth more money that his current one, Conner turns this down and Hull claim he has signed for them ( in some form ) which Conner confirms. Conner then changes his mind and says he wants to stay with the Giants. If the RFL have registered him as a Hull player ( which seems to be the case ) then Conner is a Hull player. It seems to me the Giants have done nothing wrong at this point, so they can either walk away and forget the whole thing, leaving Hull with a player who doesn't want to be with them, Or they can make some sort of offer for Conner, as can any other club, Depends how much they want t him I suppose. Have I got that right.

It seems more than a bit perverse that we have a situation where a club pays a transfer fee to keep a player who hasn't left! But that's what we've come to expect from our administrators these days!

If Connor really wants to stay, he should pay part of the transfer fee as it is him that is messing both clubs about, seems strange to change his mind, if it's the full back thing surely he knew when he signed he was unlikely to play there with Hull have Shaul.

I suspect that he is only motivated by money, and not ambition, one of the reasons for success this year has been team spirit, You have to question if he is the right character to fit into our squad.

As I've said this needs sorting and quick so both teams can recruit good for next year.

Reading between the lines from his Sky interview when picking up the MOM award, I think he had issues with Paul Anderson and they were a big factor in his decision to look for a move.

To be honest I think the talent in the Hull and Huddersfield squads is pretty even overall. Obviously Hull are having a good season while Huddersfield have had a stinker, fair play to you etc, but Hull are not suddenly World beaters. If you look at recent seasons' final league positions, I don't necessarily think it would be fair to question his ambition for deciding he wants to stay at Huddersfield. You could be accused of sour grapes.

Hull's squad is far better than hudds

We have been poor the last few, while you have had some of the best seasons in your recent history and not even come close to winning anything. I think we are on the up and have a real chance of winning something the next two seasons. Hudds is all up in the air, likely to play championship this season, who knows what the new coach will be like, if he wants to play in big games and in front of big crowds the next few years there is only one choice, he needs to look at what Crabtree and Brough have won in there careers.