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I certainly don't think he should go yet, we don't seem to be that far away from getting it right and after all we're only 3 points from the the Top 4.
However, think it only makes sense to review things at the end of the season.
We appear to have slipped backwards since winning the LLS and instead of improving in the areas we all knew needed improving on last season we look to be worse. We're not attractive to watch and we don't learn lessons. But Paul Anderson should be given time to address that.
There's a long way to go yet in the season and I don't see how a change in coach will help us. On the otherhad, a change in Captain for the reasons I've said previously said on other threads...

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Quote: Steve May "There's pressure on Anderson, there has to be.

We're nearly halfway to the ludicrous split, and we're sitting 9th.

That's not good enough, not by a long chalk.

This group of players should be looking at a solid top 4 finish, which is probably out of the question now, but they're actually in danger of getting dragged into the middle eight!

If we're ninth at the split, that will be a disastrous result for this team. More than Anderson should go if that happens.'"


yep - you could hear all the warrington fans screaming for tony smiths head when they were in 9th last week - oh ....wait.....
nope -just us then!!!

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Personally I think you are over reacting. I've seen this from almost every teams opposition fans this year.

It is a very tight league and fans are getting the old squeaky bums. Warrington Wigan Salford have all at times this year yo yo'ed in this league and been calling for changes and questioning the coaches.

They are now 3rd 4th and 5th.

A win next week and you could be up to 5th again.
2 wins in a row and results in your favour and you are 3rd.

For years fans and teams have asked for a competitive league, but it seems now we have it all fans do is panic when they lose the odd game.

It's pretty clear that Wakefield have lost ground this year and everyone else is pretty even with the exception of Leeds. Not surprising they up their game now top 4 is critical rather than top 8.

Come the split, you can see the championship teams throwing their all against Wakefield. If a couple can topple Wakefield then it will guarantee 2 championship teams in either 3/4/5 meaning at least 1 maybe 2 will gain promotion. Likely Bradford and Leigh. Anyone else who gets trapped in the middle 8 can be pretty secure in the knowledge that they are not going to be the prime targets for the championship clubs and so may get an easier ride.

I think 18 points is the target for top 8 so most teams are halfway there. Leeds and ourselves are nearly over the threshold.

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Quote: Mugwump "Hmmmm .... [i"We didn't look like scoring"[/i ..... against the best defence in the league (according to the table).

Cut the coach some slack.'"


Giants still have the best defence record in the league.

if only we could keep the ball and be patient, we would break teams down

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Dont think its time for anderson to go just yet, but if we continue to go backwards then what choice do we have at the end of the season... davy to pump more money in? cant see that happening.

we are 3 points off the top 4 which i think is the aim we are going for its a tight league, if we fail to get in the top 4 then questions have to be asked.

right now you can see the players are working damn hard for each other so anderson hasnt lost the dressing room, its just need the players to hold onto the ball and not panic when we are behind with 20mins left!

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Quote: Ambergiant "Well Life. Have you got any favourite Players? Seems like you think they are all Rubbish. Call yourself a Supporter. Times like this when real Support counts.'"


You don't know me so don't question my support. I've been around a long time and stood by the club through thin and thin and will continue to do so.

Read the post. Do I like anybody? I've said I think Jerry would make a good captain, I don't think Grix would.

Where else have I slagged any other player off?

I'm not Grix's biggest fan and prefer Connor. So what that's my opinion. If you don't like it fine.

At least you're not telling me to crawl back under my stone today you idiot.

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basic errors, professional players making basic errors that are costing us games.

someone explain exactly how the coach is to blame for that??

as for captain, i agree that brough's game does get affected when things aren't going right and he gets frustrated with ref's, maybe that could be a bold move to take the captaincy off him, but would he then do a lunt and sulk?

if we need another captain, then robbo? he's pretty passionate when he needs to be, commands respect seemingly and would probably deal with refs better than danny?

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Quote: adamhuddsgiant "Anderson shouldn't go! His system isn't working at the moment but we have not been turned over once excluding the fc game! Even if we finished 9th it would be his mess to sort! Although If we finished 9th I would expect the club to see if anyone was available for the 2016 season!

Wigan by 8
Leeds by 4
Salford by 6
Hull kr by 4
Saints by 3

Bar hull we have been competitive in every fixture with every game being in the balance! 6 try's over those games above and we would be on 18 points! All its and buts however the league is so tight that a few wins strung together we will be back up there'"


And just think how many chances we 'bomb' every game - if we could hold the ball we would have won every one of those comfortably !!!

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Meast,

To give my answer to your question and I would add that I am not calling for the Coaches head, but nor do I think he is blameless for our current disappointing form:

The Coach is responsible for preparing the team, if the team consistently do the wrong things then he is not getting his message over.

Unfortunately our players are as a group mentally weak at this time. Losing too many close games and just not performing in too many matches.

The players and coaches are saying all the right things, but I question whether the players currently believe what they are saying.

The Coach should be able to influence our players to prevent our captain losing the rag whenever a decision goes against us. It should not come as a surprise that refs get things wrong.

The Coach should be able to influence the players to encourage greater patience.

Often our moves are stifled by defences that are not back the full 10 - the Coach should have us prepared to deal with that - every other team in the league faces skinny 10s and most fare better than us in dealing with them. I think that is because we go wide early too often. A tactic that is high risk but currently low reward.

Are things entirely down to the coach? I don't think so, but he must take a lead in finding the improvement.

Is changing the coach the solution? I don't think it is time for that.

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Quote: meast "basic errors, professional players making basic errors that are costing us games.

someone explain exactly how the coach is to blame for that??'"


Simple question for you measty, what's the difference between a basic error or a non basic error?

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Quote: GiantDee "Meast,

To give my answer to your question and I would add that I am not calling for the Coaches head, but nor do I think he is blameless for our current disappointing form

nail on the head

good post

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I thought it was a much improved performance from the last game I saw which was Salford. We looked up for it, got in their faces and showed the right stuff, unfortunately so did Saints and it was a very even encounter. A bounce of the ball, a stuck pass or a different reffing decision would have meant we'd have the 2 points.

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Personally I don't want to see Anderson go. He is an inexperienced coach who is showing his frailties. Clearly he is coaching a very basic game-plan. Maybe he thinks the current ayers are not capable of more?

I would like to see an old head come in to oversee the whole operation - like Salford did with Tim Sheens. It yielded a huge upturn in their form.

The team are badly lacking an enforcer. Boy do we miss Luke O'donnell and Stu Fielden in that regard. Teams come to the JS Stadium knowing they can rule us and nobody will get a crack. We are s big powerful outfit but don't frighten anybody.

It needs addressing urgently.

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You cannot coach anything other than a basic game plan in those conditions. Every opponent has been just as conservative with their tactics. If anything we have been tring to play too much rugby for the conditions.

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Quote: Andrew J "Personally I don't want to see Anderson go. He is an inexperienced coach who is showing his frailties. Clearly he is coaching a very basic game-plan. Maybe he thinks the current ayers are not capable of more?

I would like to see an old head come in to oversee the whole operation - like Salford did with Tim Sheens. It yielded a huge upturn in their form.

The team are badly lacking an enforcer. Boy do we miss Luke O'donnell and Stu Fielden in that regard. Teams come to the JS Stadium knowing they can rule us and nobody will get a crack. We are s big powerful outfit but don't frighten anybody.

It needs addressing urgently.'"


When he first became our coach he demanded we get the basics right before we try the fancy attacking play. We did that and we won the LLS.
I agree with that tactic completely. Rain or shine we need to earn the right to do more.
However! Are our players not happy with that style of play? Have they now got too big for their boots and think they should just play how they know they can without worrying about what Anderson will say at half time?

Maybe all of that is far from the truth and the players are happy playing the coaches game but I do question if Anderson has a good attacking plan sometimes.

He is inexperienced as you say but that for where we are as a team is a good thing because he's doing a good job.

I don't think he needs a hand with responsibilities. I trust him to get us through the season with us pushing hard for silverware.

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