And we've never scored any questionable tries? A focus on anything other than our own performance misses the point completely.

agree about us being soft ....our players would never have been bullied with the likes of Roarty, mason, griffin, o'donnell etc....our biggest bloke gets a sly one of someone and not one member of our team shows up ...even the guy who got smacked just stood there and waved his arms about for the officials to do something. Teams must know they can do that against us as there is no resistance from our guys.

Just on Crabtree, I'm going to break the taboo and point out a few facts

He might be a Giant's legend, but he's a pale shadow of the player he was a few years back. He's 32 and he carried the team for years, but there's some home truths to face up to. He's not the player he was, and he's not going to be again.

The club decide how to get the best out of him for the next year or two. He isn't ever going to be a block busting running prop who leaves defenders lying on their s, like he was four or five years back. So he has to get back to some kind of off loading game. He has to use his brain to make the most of what he has left in his career.

If he doesn't want to do that, and he wants to focus more and more on his media work and other interests? Well, good luck to him but then it's time to move on. I'd gladly shake his hand any time any place, because he's a bona fide claret and gold legend, but all things come to an end.

Does he want two more years at the top? Or not? It's a tough question, but it needs to be asked. And there's no dishonour in the answer being "or not"

Some tough questions to be asked at the Giants all round. A bit of honesty about how much the club really wants to achieve is needed.

The hull player has an obligation to get past the defensive line, since he didn't do that, and the resulting gap was exploited, it should of been a penalty. I do agree it's no where near as obvious as the Leeds obstruction, but that doesn't make the decision any better

Equally such decisions didn't lose the game for Huddersfield judging by all accounts

Crabtree had relatively few minutes though on sunday compared to the two starting props.
His stats from the game 15 tackles no misses and 10 carries 83 metres are as solid as ever and i personally think he is the least of the giants worries at the moment.

Agree with this. I think the years are catching up with him and his body is telling him it's nearly time to pack up. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was his last year. A legend indeed but all good things come to an end eventually. It time for the younger props to step up.

Crabtree is still our best prop, gets through a mountain of tackles and attracts 3 or 4 defenders, top metre maker too.

shame the offloading part of his game seemed to have got coached out of him

think his contract is up this year, still worth another 2 in my book, doesnt miss many games through injury either, solid

I would have thought the idea of bringing in a prop like Huby who can do big minutes is it will allow Crabtree to lessen his work load and this certainly appeared to be the case on sunday.

yep spot on, huby can do big minutes as can crabtree, he can help eorl out this season instead of eorl taking on the workload for the rest

As it stands Crabtree is our best prop by far.

Others around him need to put their hand up and help him out.

Folk blaming his media work! What's Kopczacks excuse?

Kopczak and Huby did most time. Mullally and Crabtree along with the rest of the Team what's their excuse???.
All the so called supporters should get behind the Team or do they get a buss out of moaning.

I don't get a buzz out of moaning. I give credit where it's due. As it happens we've just lost 19-0 at home to a team tipped to finish in the bottom 4. So sorry if I'm not shouting from the roof tops.

kopczak put the best hit in on sunday at least, his face doesnt seem to fit with alot of supporters though, mullallys seems to be he can do no wrong in some eyes

this forum goes into melt down after a defeat, suppose its the nature of a forum, shame its not the same when we win

Cant argue with that, fc and saints have both got rid because he wasnt good enough