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Quote: brearley84 "Bit of a poor start today 12-0 down, didnt have the ball the first 20mins! poor discipline again.

second half alot better! widnes were trying to slow the ball down at every play.

lunt got man of the match today with a hat trick, def won the battle of the hookers with faiumu.

mcgillvary was my man of the match behind lunt, great to see a 100% fit jerry again.

some of the forwards showed up well...mullally, kopzchak. fielden did 30mins and produced a few strong runs.

great run from ferguson for one of our tries...he needed it though as wasnt too impressive rest of the time. cording did his job when lawrence had to go off injured.

doesnt look good fro lawrence?
Yep after that turn out,unfortunately that will be our last home friendly for a long time.Kudos to the loyals who showed up,and thanks to Sir Ken for giving us the fixture.

About the game,probably could read even less into this one than the Saints fixture,in terms of our prospects for 2013.Poor fare apart from individual performances,team work lacking,no one bothered about pushing up with the ball carrier.

Craig Kopczak gonna be great for us,tough metres but also the quick play the ball for such a big lad,if turtled rolls up onto his feet in the one rapid motion,brilliant - saying this already and sure it won't be the last time in 2013 - thanks budfud,no thanks an awful lot budfud icon_lol.gif

Would hate to play in the halves in one of these friendlies,drift wide looking for runners/options,no one can be bothered so leave you to get creamed.

I have to agree with what others have said about the hooking/halves situation,Faiumu should go to 13 and stay there,his distribution from dummy half is far too slow and ponderous and Robinson should go back to dummy half with Lunt.

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I wonder if I was watching the same game? Do not agree at all with the comparison between lunt and fooey. Fooeys distribution was MUCH quicker than Lunts- we scored three quick tries after he came on as a result as widnes weren't quick enough to cope with it. We looked sharper AS A TEAM with him on the field and breaks were made as a result

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Quote: brearley84 "agree about cording, think hes just going to be one of these solid players whos just does his job nothing specatcular.

not looking good for lawrence so prob wont make the saints game, shame because i think he would of started, gives someone an opportunity.

maybe ferres, chan, odonnell with ferguson/cording on the bench but think they may start with odonnell off the bench. would prob put taai in ahead of feruson and cording though.'"


Cannot understand this love in with Ta ai.

Most of us know nothing about him other than see him scoring two tries from five metres out on Youtube.

As far as i am concerned he is a squad player until he gets here and does something

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Watch Fooey,he has to double pump to get the ball any distance from dummy half by which time the defence are up on us.

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Errrr....Who was the guy in the fur trimmed parka doing the half time draw?

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The three quick tries scored in the second half when we were 12-6 down were scored when Lunt had come back on for Faiumuand were directly as a result of Lunt speeding up play from dummy half

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Quote: jools "I wonder if I was watching the same game? Do not agree at all with the comparison between lunt and fooey. Fooeys distribution was MUCH quicker than Lunts- we scored three quick tries after he came on as a result as widnes weren't quick enough to cope with it. We looked sharper AS A TEAM with him on the field and breaks were made as a result'"


From where I was standing Fiaumu was slower at dummy half, he also threw two terrible forward passes from the PTB, but these pre-season friendly games are for exactly that; blasting the cob-webs away and getting back upto speed. And don't read this wrong, I don't have anything against Fiaumu, just my opinion.

You could see how rusty our attack was in the first half, putting the ball down a lot and inviting Widnes up to our goal line. Once a bit of fluidity came back and people switched on it was a different game and the pace came back.

It was good to see Jerry doing what he does best, a pack built around some big props making decent meters and Lunt playing a fantastic game.

I think we will see Faiumu start the first 20 mins and then Lunt do 60 with Faiumu sparing with who-ever plays 13.

Anybody any news on Bruno? He looked to be really struggling, I hope it's nothing too serious.

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Two more thoughts on today -

Not sure are half backs will very creative but that's not the team nor style Anderson has built

Today without taai and lod - our last 2 close seasons marquee signings. If they both hit form... Dreams may come true.

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Looked very rusty at the start and lots of mistakes, people blowing out of their whatsits - on both sides, but this is to be expected pre-season.

I'm sure the lads will benefit alot from the run out, not to fussed with this and we all know it's not how you start a season it's how you end it.

Lunt was clearly MOTM for me, a great 'new' signing icon_wink.gif

Last 10-15 mins we were trying a few attacking plays which is good to see.

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Thing that did stand out with Robbo back at Scrum Half was that Broughy wasn't in the game half as much as used to seeing him and he didn't seem to have as much time as he used to do.

Might be cos its still early doors but if we are gonna do owt this year both halfs are gonna have to be on top form behind what I must say is a monster pack

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I thought Lunt was outstanding - especially when he came back on in the 2nd half.

Brough & Robbo - work in progress.

Grix didn't have much to do at FB, he caught every high ball, and was always backing up whenever a forward looked as though he would break through.

The forwards were steady and fairly domineering.

Other backs were OK, with Leroy standing out.

The first half was dire. We didn't have a lot of the ball, but we lacked attacking ideas. However, as the match progressed, confidence seemed to grow.

Far from perfect, but still early days. As people have said, better to end the season in full flow rather than start like a house on fire and burn out.

Not dispirited at all, but quick improvement is needed if Saints aren't to repeat last week's performance.

Good to see Phil Joseph back in SL action. Another one whom I feel was treated badly by a certain previous coach!

Oh, and good to see Chris Thorman back in action - albeit in a different role.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Cannot understand this love in with Ta ai.

Most of us know nothing about him other than see him scoring two tries from five metres out on Youtube.

As far as i am concerned he is a squad player until he gets here and does something'"


true... i havent put him in my starting 17 team BUT with lawrence now injured it leaves me a space to fill so may give him a chance from the bench.

ferguson , fairbank and cording could fit in to the side nicely with odonnell,ferres and chan.

lets just hope lawrence is ok to play then the space is filled.

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Quote: keefie "Errrr....Who was the guy in the fur trimmed parka doing the half time draw?'"


? wasnt it chan who was doing the half time draw..

think odonnel was down by the tunnel too

did anyone spot where anderson was sat? wasnt in the usual seat in the upper tiers

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seems faiumu is getting abit of stick!

do not under estimate what this guy brings to the team.... very experienced international hooker... different player to lunt and they will compliment each other well

no doubt lunt had the better game today but faiumu will have just as many good games this season im sure.

agree with a few others about brough too, didnt seem to be as involved as he usually is...which can never be a good thing!

but lets not got too worried just yet, early days and they have warned us not to expect them to be firing on full cylinders early in the season.

big positives were the props and lunt/mcgillvary yesterday... odonnell and taai to come yet too

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Didn't see the game so can't comment on that but my worry when we failed to recruit a halfback was the speed of pass of both Faiumu and Robinson, particularly off their left hands. Robinson particularly struggles passing long to the right and this could seriously hamper our attack and Brough.

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