There is no one person to blame for what happened last season. Injuries took their toll on everyone and everyone made mistakes from the coach downwards. Whilst it may seem nice and convenient to blame all our woes on NB and his selections I am completely convinced that is not the only thing that was going on that stuffed things up. The way KB departed is reason enough to suss that something wasn't right. Cas away; that is what did it for me.

I think it's fair to say that we lack a leader of men and that is a big thing. Players looked to Brown as captain to lead by example or lead with words. He did neither. Was it his fault he was picked as captain? No. I'm not saying he was the only one that gave up either. But he did give up.

Yes Danril there was no one person to blame and what went on behind the scenes may never be revealed but something most certainly did.Rugby players rarely capitulate, the game itself lends itself to integrity and honesty,I would not blame NB for all the woes at the Giants but he may have been able to handle it better along with a few others.

It was a very strange season,it started with NB stating very early we were going mobile because of reduction to interchange,& then seeing us cutting opposition teams apart.

Then it degenerated into farce because our converted props got knackered.NB would have been sacked well before the SF,but was given the chance to get us to Wembley.Some players stopped trying,which I honestly don't recall seeing from any Fartown team in all my years of watching them,some of them made it so obvious.

They are going on about our quality ob's but some of them have read their own publicity,one of the most important aspects of stopping quality attack is to realise the threat,get up and in and stop the danger,They weren't committed enough to that last year,they just liked to carry the ball and show off.

They stopped trusting their inside players, which is understandable

Brown should have been sacked after Magic Weekend IMO.

Agree mate, Cas away was the turning point for me too - the fact that Brough - in view and earshot of most of us was yelling at our supposed captain and using industrial language towards him , failed to motivate Brown or even get a reaction, he moped off to the wing and sulked - that signalled to me that this was a guy who had had enough and didnt want to know anymore.
Shame cos he was a good servant and we could have done with the 2009/10 Kev Brown.

the players didnt want to play the systems that nathan brown had put in place. thats what went on at cas game, then it was the semi final...

grix went to full back and kev brown partnered brough.

saying kev brown wasnt interested and gave up as our captain is an insult to him and his time at the giants..for which he played a massive part in getting us where we are now.

we did have leadership and experience problems last season though... we now have fielden and kopzchak to help out here now

It isn't an insult, it's an observation and an accurate one at that. The reason for it is to an extent immaterial. Didn't believe in the systems, injured etc, all tinsel. He gave up, as did several others and that's the tall and short of it. You may deem it insulting to Kevin Brown but strangely have no qualms about ripping sheets off Nathan Brown who was just as important in the teams progress if not more. You have to give it to them all, good and bad. Kopczak for me won't provide any leadership but Fielden will. LO'D is IMO the closest thing we have to a leader because he sets an example with his enthusiasm.

Fielden will bring a lot to the side and will help the younger players including Kopczak.
As For the rest you're spot on.

Cheers for this. I haven't bought my season ticket as yet 'cos my lad said he'd buy it for me for some work I've done for him but I'm still waiting.
He's bought his and I'll make sure he buys mine before end of Nov.

I tought I'd come back and have a quick look to see if I got any responses to my original post. Seems it's provoked a bit of debate.

I'm still disappointed by having to go to plan B. i.e. not signing a stand off. As i said originally Luke Robinson has the heart of a bull and will give 110% to the cause. But the fact remains this wasn't Paul Anderson's Plan A.

I'm still looking forward to next season but the fact remains we need a bl00dy stand off. Problem is a good one is like rocking horse .

Together we are Huddersfield - 'united we are Giants'

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ord-Tigers See this for Lee Gilmours take on last season. Unlike a lot of posters on here I think Luke Robinson has a very good kicking game. Maybe not as good as some but certainly a very useful kick.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ord-Tigers See this for Lee Gilmours take on last season. Unlike a lot of posters on here I think Luke Robinson has a very good kicking game. Maybe not as good as some but certainly a very useful kick.

I'm 100% sure they had a good go at getting a stand off - just disappointed it didn't come off.

Brough / Robinson will give any team a run for their money - but will they do it consistently enough over the season to bring some silverware to the Giants and what if ether gets injured? Just as an example Wire have Briers, O'Brien, Ratchford and Myler - I believe we needed that extra quality player to start the game alongside Brough with Robbo coming off the bench to scoot at a tyring team.

I'm not being pessimistic just realistic. I still believe we'll go better than last year and the forwards will give the backs a better platform to work with. The big plus for me is that with some proper props the likes of Chan, Patrick, Ferres, Ukama and O'Donnell will be able to do some damage around the edges like Manu and Moa.

This sums up my thoughts on our creativity far more eloquently that I could muster.
We do have our last stand off as assistant coach so lets hope he can up our current backs game.