Mental. You lot are like soccer fans, one loss and you are burning players in effegy.

A win this Sunday and you will be talking like the giants are invincible. Crikey. Get some perspective folks, and for some, come back to reality.

The likes of Eorl,Jerry,Brough,Robbo etc i would say have become better players under our coaching than they were at their other clubs...due to their willingness to work hard to get to where the coach wanted them !....they certainly weren't brought to the the club as 'superstars' of the game.

Plus Doof has also been hammered on here recently too ......the players who are getting bagged - ie Leroy (an England international, raised by the club from Junior level) Hodgson - (another ex international) Raleigh - (excellent clubman who has stuck at the club despite not been a regular) deserve a damn sight more respect than some of you lot are giving them !!!

I am more than happy with the squad we have at this club and i suggest to the people who aren't happy with what's happening here that you maybe best advised to find another club to support !!!

Pulling him to bits? - Bullsh*t. Check out recent match videos at fb..how often does he let the ball bounce? When does he ever tackle around the legs and when does he run the ball back fast and hard at fb? That in the play offs he showed great speed when put into space on the wing is not in question.

With options available at fb and centre I would only consider leroy on the wing (but Hodg and Jerry should not be dropped atm). However I think Nathan B wil put him at centre for the French game.

What a joke. If you dare question a player then you should find another club pathetic.

I have made some specific comments about Cudjoe. If you have evidence that he consistently attempts to catch bombs/ defends well and tackles well etc let's have it. have you ever since leroy put his body on the line in the way Brett H and Grix do so at fb (and they are haf his size) On the wing fine but elsewhere a potential liability.

Leroy puts his body on the line every week - just like every other Rugby League player..the point i'm making is we have a good squad , a good hard working squad so why the need to pull 1 or 2 individuals out of a succesful group ?

Oh and back on topic, one rumour i've heard is that where looking at Miles Greenwood from Hailfax...dunno how much there is in that !!

that is where we can agree to differ.

thought this was supposed to be about comings and goings? apart from griffin possibly going does anyone actually know of any new signings rather than arguing over leroys best position or lack of

Never played then?

I have already stated that Leroy should not play fullback. But I also feel that his skills are wasted on the wing, as for his tackling technique-have you ever considered this is a tactic and has been instructed his job is to slow down the play of the ball of players with speed and agility, he holds the player up whilst a second comes in thus allowing our forwards to get into position before the tackle is completed it's a tactic all teams are using following on from the refs clamping down on wrestling. the last time a giants fb ran the ball back fast and hard was a long time ago- even Paul Reilly looked nonchalant at times.

whos to say that would of happened to sculthorpe if we got him?

the club wanted to keep him, bradford offered big money so he went. left us short of a prop and in my opinion we are still short of a prop. thats why we see the likes of horne, faiumu and raleigh having to play out of position

Is it arrogance/attitude or nerves with Leroy? He seems apprehensive sometimes.

yes we were ahead v batley when cudjoe scored but it was hardly comfortable..cudjoe put the game to bed with a magic try.

wouldnt think we was talking about an england international here would you

have you not got another thread to start about wakefield by the way?

Some ridiculous comments, Leroy had an average start to the season but played well against Saints and Cas. He is probably the most naturally talented of our backs. I think he is a talented defender too! Griffin is our best prop for me. Has had a great season.

Just on the Griffin rumour it may have some legs . I was told last season that we were trying to sell him to Hull Fc so that we could get Willie Mason.

Between Mason and Sculthorpe ( with his injury problems) it looks like we avoided making two bad signings.

Would like to Keep Griffin but in Nathan we trust. At the begining of this season i am sure that there was a suggestion that we were possibly in for a top Aussie prop