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| Quote: brearley84 "no it wasnt as bad , we bossed most departments apart from one that mattered most ..scoring tries
leigh scored on their first attack!!! 2nd try was abit dodgy'"
You really didn't boss most areas. Both sides made a load of handling errors. Ikahihifo and Taai couldn't play their usual game because of our defence. You didn't look like scoring all night, and we didn't look like conceding.
Nothing wrong with the 2nd try, as pictures prove the ball was grounded
Ref gave dodgy decisions both ways. The better team won, albeit the game was much closer than the score line suggests
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| Sounds like the Stone Age has really caused a few problems within the club. Heard this 2 weeks ago but wanted more evidence as found the claims unreal. I've now heard from 3 different sources that Stone does not like any of the English players we have at the Giants and wants a team full of Aussies. This has not gone down well with the players who are now not wanting to play for him. Could this explain our below par performances? Anyway like I said, I did not want to put that on here until I could confirm from more sources.
If this really is the case I don't care what kind of a reputation he comes with, I would personally buy him a plane ticket home tomorrow. If he doesn't like the English players he can do one right now and disappear back to Oz.
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| Remain to be convinced about Mr Stone.
There has been very little of the promised improvement and that only in the area of conditioning with the conditioner responsible now gone.
Whilst other teams have improved their squads, we're going in the opposite direction - seemingly.
It looks clear that we our down-scaling our wage-bill and ultimately, without the improvement we needed from last season, that can only mean one thing be it this season or one coming over the horizon soon.
Not enjoying watching the Giants at all at the moment and it would seem like I'm not on my own.
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| INOUT Quote: Vegas Giant "Remain to be convinced about Mr Stone.
There has been very little of the promised improvement and that only in the area of conditioning with the conditioner responsible now gone.
Whilst other teams have improved their squads, we're going in the opposite direction - seemingly.
It looks clear that we our down-scaling our wage-bill and ultimately, without the improvement we needed from last season, that can only mean one thing be it this season or one coming over the horizon soon.
Not enjoying watching the Giants at all at the moment and it would seem like I'm not on my own.'"
Oh we aren't scaling down our wage bill. Gaskell is on more than most of the other players- on tonnes- more than some of our internationals have earned previously. Clough isn't being paid peanuts either.
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| Quote: raceman "Sounds like the Stone Age has really caused a few problems within the club. Heard this 2 weeks ago but wanted more evidence as found the claims unreal. I've now heard from 3 different sources that Stone does not like any of the English players we have at the Giants and wants a team full of Aussies. This has not gone down well with the players who are now not wanting to play for him. Could this explain our below par performances? Anyway like I said, I did not want to put that on here until I could confirm from more sources.
If this really is the case I don't care what kind of a reputation he comes with, I would personally buy him a plane ticket home tomorrow. If he doesn't like the English players he can do one right now and disappear back to Oz.'"
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| We're not just trying to improve our squad though it's the entire club that's re-building, whatever the problems are or were that Rick alluded to after only a few weeks in the job, will take more than just swapping a few players around to sort it.
And as for the bit about him not liking the players well i've spoke to a few players since Rick took over and everyone of them had good things to say about what he was trying to do so if that's the case things must have gone downhill rapidly.
What he doesn't like is people who do not work hard enough or want to be a part of what he wants to do, hence the people who have left the club since he took over.
When did our fans become like football fans where instant success is needed or we demand a new guy in charge ?
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| Quote: jools "INOUTOh we aren't scaling down our wage bill. Gaskell is on more than most of the other players- on tonnes- more than some of our internationals have earned previously. Clough isn't being paid peanuts either.'"
No idea if this is true but it would not surprise me. The sheer incompetence at the club re recruitment and staffing etc is of no surprise to me.
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| To be fair most fans I have spoken to don't expect instant success, they just expect a decent standered of defence and to at least watch us do the basics right, Which isn't happening right now.
We know they can do it. Some are international standered but for whatever reason we can't put it together on match day. It isn't just Rick's fault. The players are to blame IF they aren't doing what he has asked. If that's the case then he needs to do what he is payed to do and get them to do it. He might need a couple of seasons to get them where he wants them to be, but basic rugby skills is expected surely.
I hope to god they are backing him and each other... if everyone isn't on the same page then it will fall apart.
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "We're not just trying to improve our squad though it's the entire club that's re-building, whatever the problems are or were that Rick alluded to after only a few weeks in the job, will take more than just swapping a few players around to sort it.
And as for the bit about him not liking the players well i've spoke to a few players since Rick took over and everyone of them had good things to say about what he was trying to do so if that's the case things must have gone downhill rapidly.
What he doesn't like is people who do not work hard enough or want to be a part of what he wants to do, hence the people who have left the club since he took over.
When did our fans become like football fans where instant success is needed or we demand a new guy in charge ?'"
o brien and mason soon fell out of favour with stone, kick up the back side for those two... obrien injured now!
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| Quote: jools "INOUTOh we aren't scaling down our wage bill. Gaskell is on more than most of the other players- on tonnes- more than some of our internationals have earned previously. Clough isn't being paid peanuts either.'"
How much?
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| Quote: GiantMisterE "How much?'"
try around £100,000
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| if its true then we are still paying very average players top dollar was the same with mason . never seem to learn
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| Quote: 40 year old giant "if its true then we are still paying very average players top dollar was the same with mason . never seem to learn'"
I find some of the stuff quoted on here hard to believe, Not because i think people make stuff up necessarily but because i can't believe Mr Davy hasn't got a bit more wick in his lamp than we give him credit for. He may not have a life long background in League but he has had some 20 years and he can see as well as the rest of us the standard of our players , It's easy to say we never learn and it certainly looks that way, but i just can't believe he has got where he is at today by repeatedly making the same mistakes.
The other side of that coin is that we appear to be a really really badly run club at all levels, He is the man, so you have no choice but to assume he is happy with that side of things. It's a bit of a strange situation in a sense, Mr Davy is extremely popular with the vast majority of the fans, ( including myself ) All recognize and are extremely grateful for what he has done for the Giants, and continues to do, On the other hand i would say just as many fans are baffled and disappointed with the running of the club.
I don't think any of us know what goes on on the inside of the club, Some will know more than others I'm sure ( i know nothing ) but at the end of the day everything and everyone gets judged on results ( It's the way of the world ) on the field ,off the field the bottom line is results and with the lack of actual knowledge you judge what you see.
So if we are paying silly money to Gaskell, Clough ,Hinchcliffe or anyone else there is only one man to blame, Just like Stone or Anderson before him will, and did get the blame for poor results on the field from a team he has picked, Mr Davy is responsible for the team he has picked to run his club. He certainly deserves better but he is in charge and nothing seems to change , so he must be happy with his team and nothing seems set to change anytime soon.
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| has rick stone been given enough time at the club with the cards hes been dealt ..takes time to get the team and things in place you want
still early yet under his tenure
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| Quote: brearley84 "has rick stone been given enough time at the club with the cards hes been dealt ..takes time to get the team and things in place you want
still early yet under his tenure'"
Personally i don't think he has and i have said so often enough, On the other hand i have a lot of sympathy with the opinion that we should be seeing more than we are. An instance of what i mean is, Everyone can see Brierley is doing nothing at all for the side as he is being played, So why continue with it, either play a style that suits his game or drop him, Waiting for him to develop a playmaking style is going to be a long project, You have to assume RS sees something.
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