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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"What you and Giant Scorpio seem to miss in your posts is the mickey poor attempts by the club to undertake things.
FIVE YEARS ago in a meeting at the club i raised the issue of getting the supporters involved in undertaking things to help the club out.
I talked about a whole host of things but made it clear it should be part of a co ordinated strategy. Everything from posters to the club, attending carnival attempts in the town,.
I offered if the club would advertise to make work books for children in maths usin g Giants as a theme.
I explained it should not just be a simple appeal but should be motivated as part of a coherent strategy.
I talked about them making a poster like the WWI one with kitchener replaced by Eorl with the slogan Your club needs you.
We suggested that Ponner be supported to make his youtube videos on a monthly basis and for them to be sent to everyone on the clubs email list etc.
I suggested that for volunteers they had a bit of a do at the end of the season with the players there as a thank you.
NONE of this required lots of Money.
None of it required lots of time
None of it required lots of resources.
I offered to pay £200 and to undertake one of the suggestions myself but wanted the club to sanction it.
Not one of these things has been done.
The club continues to do things piecemeal, half cocked without thought, imagination, initiative.
The band good idea planned badly. No one really knew it was happeneing until it started. Where was the consultation where was the planning with the singers before the event
They are all qualities that have fook all to do with money or resources.
Anyone that goes on about moaning is speaking rubbish. You just accept mediocrity, you are blind to the facts, your loyalty does you a disservice.
The club treat many supporters with disdain.
They treat the ex players association appallingly. Rarely send first team players to meals etc, withdrawing season tickets etc from them.
I moan because i care about the club.
I moan because i am sick of watching appalling manangement and actions by peolple who need to be moved on and bring in people with new ideas, new energy, new dynamism. It is run by those who try the same old things then blame the fans for not getting behind the club.
That is a view that is then echoed on here by Jools, Giant Scorpio and Ivor.
If i managed as badly at work as those do at the Giants i would be unemployed. When things go wrong at work i look at myself and think what do I have to do to make it better.
I dont just allocate cases to staff ( who are completely overwrked already i sit them down explain why they are best for the case.
I enthuse and encourage and motivate them.
I never blame the staff. I accept responsibility for my management.
All we get on here is it is the fans fault , it is the people of Huddersfields fault, it is SKys fault.
WTF are the club doing.
Doing exactly the same thing and blaming the fans.
RTEad the posts on here from other Giants fans not the loyal jools, Meast, Ivor and GiantS.
But other fans who have been around year.
It does not matter how fooking loyal you lot are, when the others have gone and the demorlaisation sets in you wont build it back up.
It is you loyal uncritical ones who do the disservice to the club and will hasten it's demise to Championship 2. I have no doubt you will still be happy standing on te stands and talking about how great you are.
You will be able to tell your grandchildren about how you were the 300 in 2020.
The 300 is nothing to celebrate it is a sad example of the clubs previous decline.
Something which is starting again IMHO'"
Extremely well put mate, Sadly it will fall mostly on deaf ears.
I am beginning to think that maybe Daz has a good point, Maybe the board are hitting their targets, and we really are only meant to be a nearly team. If some of them have jobs as safe as they seem to have, why rock the boat.
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| imo it makes no difference what marketing the club do if the people of Huddersfield aren't interested. I'm sure town do tonnes of marketing- I don't see any of it because I'm not interested in the game and no amount of marketing will change that for me.
As for changes in personnel not convinced that would make any difference---- Robbie Paul was the great messiah- in the end he changed squat.....
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| Quote jools="jools"imo it makes no difference what marketing the club do if the people of Huddersfield aren't interested. I'm sure town do tonnes of marketing- I don't see any of it because I'm not interested in the game and no amount of marketing will change that for me.
As for changes in personnel not convinced that would make any difference---- Robbie Paul was the great messiah- in the end he changed squat.....'"
Your a teacher if you have a child who is not mitivated what do you do ?
Do you work out how to motivate him or just give up ?????????
How difficult is it to keep a record of people emails and then send them a newsletter every month ?
Yet it is beyond the wit of the Giants. other than a brief message we occasionally get.
How hard to do a five minute video.
The Boys in the weight room.
Brough on kicking practyice.
The physio room.
The work of the conditioner.
The players been flogged on training.
A bit of music as background and it creates interest.
How hard is that.
Ponner offered to do it for nothing and the club did not take him up on it,
That is right
FOR NOTHING.
No money, no significant time for the club just someone with a bit of wit and imagination needed to help a suppoprter to do it for free FREE FREE FREE FREE
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| Quote meast="meast"spot on is that and very well put.
i think the problem is that, as we have seen on this thread and on other threads, that not everyone is a "supporter", some are "fans" who just want to be entertained and have no particular feeling for the club, it's just another form of entertainment for them rather than something you give your heart to.'"
You seem to create an artificial distinction.
These two groups can and do change.
You maybe passionate and go home and away and be a supporter then things change you move abroad you work away you have kids then you become a fan.
You can be a fan who then gets hooked and become as supporter.
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| Quote jools="jools"imo it makes no difference what marketing the club do if the people of Huddersfield aren't interested. I'm sure town do tonnes of marketing- I don't see any of it because I'm not interested in the game and no amount of marketing will change that for me.
As for changes in personnel not convinced that would make any difference---- Robbie Paul was the great messiah- in the end he changed squat.....'"
Yes it is all the people of huddersfields fault blah blah blah
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Your a teacher if you have a child who is not mitivated what do you do ?
Do you work out how to motivate him or just give up ?????????
How difficult is it to keep a record of people emails and then send them a newsletter every month ?
Yet it is beyond the wit of the Giants. other than a brief message we occasionally get.
How hard to do a five minute video.
The Boys in the weight room.
Brough on kicking practyice.
The physio room.
The work of the conditioner.
The players been flogged on training.
A bit of music as background and it creates interest.
How hard is that.
Ponner offered to do it for nothing and the club did not take him up on it,
That is right
FOR NOTHING.
No money, no significant time for the club just someone with a bit of wit and imagination needed to help a suppoprter to do it for free FREE FREE FREE FREE'"
Poor analogy Durham-
I have been a teacher long enough to know that it makes no difference what I do or say, no amount of anything is going to motivate certain individuals-! And you still try -but tbh I'm better off focusing efforts on those that are motivated.
I get emails all the time with info from the club- probably one a week.
I also know that I got pretty peed off when the football team kept sending me stuff I had absolutely no interest in because they happened to have my email address!!!!
We've had weights video, and several training videos- tonnes of stuff all the time on social media-and you won't ever get a video of brough doing kicking practice- because according to him - he doesn't do any!!!!!!
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| Quote jools="jools"Poor analogy Durham-
I have been a teacher long enough to know that it makes no difference what I do or say, no amount of anything is going to motivate certain individuals-! And you still try -but tbh I'm better off focusing efforts on those that are motivated.
I get emails all the time with info from the club- probably one a week.
I also know that I got pretty peed off when the football team kept sending me stuff I had absolutely no interest in because they happened to have my email address!!!!
We've had weights video, and several training videos- tonnes of stuff all the time on social media-and you won't ever get a video of brough doing kicking practice- because according to him - he doesn't do any!!!!!!'"
Which just goes to show how much interest and ambition the decision makers have.
If I was paying D Brough £100,000 a year he would be practising, and he wouldn't be telling people otherwise if he wanted to keep on getting paid.
But I think you are right , I reckon the club have adopted the attitude you describe, There's nothing we can do, something might turn up, Till it does, just keep soldering on.
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| Quote jools="jools"imo it makes no difference what marketing the club do if the people of Huddersfield aren't interested. I'm sure town do tonnes of marketing- I don't see any of it because I'm not interested in the game and no amount of marketing will change that for me.
As for changes in personnel not convinced that would make any difference---- Robbie Paul was the great messiah- in the end he changed squat.....'"
Haven't the Giants lost somewhere around 3000 fans in the last 2/3 years, Those Huddersfield people clearly were interested weren't they, Now they are not, I wonder why.
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| A lot of them came on the back of cheap (£50) season tickets and a cup final, they came to see trophies being won not necessarily to support the club !, they're probably at Headingley or Etihad Stadium these days.
We have a hardcore of 4-5,000 fans who will turn up whatever, it's getting the other 15,000 who turned up for Cup finals to come as regular fans rather than glory seekers, god knows how though !!
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| Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"A lot of them came on the back of cheap (£50) season tickets and a cup final, they came to see trophies being won not necessarily to support the club !, they're probably at Headingley or Etihad Stadium these days.
We have a hardcore of 4-5,000 fans who will turn up whatever, it's getting the other 15,000 who turned up for Cup finals to come as regular fans rather than glory seekers, god knows how though !!'"
Well Daz it don't matter whether they are hardcore or glory seekers, the turnstile, doesn't know the difference, and if they came to see Cup finals and trophies being won, Then you have answered your own question, Thats what you have to give them.
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| Ah, yes that's where the club have gone wrong then...by not giving the 'fans' trophy wins to celebrate !!!
Come on, "Thats what you have to give them".....like the club/players haven't tried to do that !! you can't just 'give' them a trophy you have to win them, and win them against much better, stronger, richer clubs than ours !!!
Why is it so hard for people to grasp that our club isn't able to compete with the bigger clubs ? yes we have done well to match them on the field but until someone with enough money to buy Ken out and do it his/her way and 'give' trophies out then we will always have to do things on the cheap as we cannot afford to splash cash we don't have on world class players/world class marketing/world class coaching etc....how many of you lot demanding of the club can afford to shop at Harrods ? if people insisted you did would you do it just because they wanted you to even though it would probably finish you off financially ?.
Harsh as it may sound if its regular trophies you want then you are probably watching the wrong club, we WILL win them sometime but if you're not prepared to wait then maybe Headingley/DW stadium with their world class everything is more suited to you rather than Huddersfield.
Every single one of us be it older fans, newer fans, casual fans. staunch supporters, final day trippers wants to us to be a rich, successful club, but this is Rugby League and it cannot just be bought it has to be earned, and for a club like us it will take longer to earn than clubs who are already rich and successful.
Whether people who demand trophies like that or not it is not relevant, that's the truth of our situation.
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| Quote jools="jools"imo it makes no difference what marketing the club do if the people of Huddersfield aren't interested. I'm sure town do tonnes of marketing- I don't see any of it because I'm not interested in the game and no amount of marketing will change that for me.
As for changes in personnel not convinced that would make any difference---- Robbie Paul was the great messiah- in the end he changed squat.....'"
im sure i read in Robbie's book that he and other members of the marketing team had some good idea's but couldn't put them in motion because of the financial restraints, but i could be wrong.
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