Really? Kruise was excellent against Salford and Woolford was outspoken in saying so? He is very inconsistent though and once he gains some consistency in his game hell be an excellent player. Both should improve under Woolford.

Thinks both terrible decision makers

can see why with leeming, had a cracking game versus salford but really gives too many penalties away and like djhudds says some awful decisions

that knock on lastnight too near the end

no wonder hes looking to bring this hooker/half back in

Leeming is one of the best young hookers in the game. To slate him is typical of our fans, who seem to go for certain players whilst others are untouchable. . Leeming for me is very shrewd at acting half- yes he gives away penalties (although has been Better in his last two) how many penalties does he win us when he runs at the off square markers!
Interestingly he’s given away the same no of penalties as Seb, and hinchy is just one behind- yet even though IMO Seb has been terrible this season no one is batting an eyelid. he’s the same number of try assists as brough, third in our tackle stats,
He’s a different acting half from O Brien- for me has the skill set to suggest he could play in the halves whilst O Brien could not.

Well thorman and Woolford certainly don’t think he is shrewd, they are very unimpressed with Seb too while you mention him

Yet they are selecting both........

Who else can they pick ? Believe me if they had better options neither would be playing

So better than anything else we have then!

But not what they want, that could be said of a lot of the squad. Just because they are best of a bad lot doesn’t make them good

Well quite- same could be said of the likes of Murphy, Rankin, Smith, clough etc etc who aren’t anything special even with all their experience but do a job
I’d say leeming and O Brien are better than many hookers in SL- and are both still young and learning. If Woolford has singled them out for criticism then IMO he’s done wrong.
Leeming remember has been selected for the knights squad which means he’s seen as a potential future international 9.

Just as a matter of interest, how do you come by so much inside information.
I'm not disputing it, it's just that i hear so little other than what i pick up off here ,and half of that turns out to be rubbish.

Regards Leeming and O'Brien, If woolford is not happy with them, i can't imagine how he feels about half the squad then, no doubt we shall get to know in due course.

I thought the point f bringing in a new coach is to use his ideas and knowledge to select the best team/squad that surely means he like or dislike some of the squad and will mean some will change their positions and type of play, let the man get on with what hes been tasked to do, none of us have the insight he has.

I’m around the club a lot especially match days where you hear a lot of opinions

back on topic adam o'brien has been good for us, love his tries close to the line and celebrations!

another bulls ex player like clough who has proved his worth

Fair enough.