ATEOTD Cas were the side who wanted to win this game where as Hudds after beating wire thought they could beat anyone and have been bitten from behind.Hopefully Hudds learn a lesson from this.

Best Post you've ever made on this hallowed forum! For me, the Lads will have off days, and that was an off day. Next week, we need to dust ourselves off, and get back to working hard to beat a very okay Hull team. In the wingers, yes we do maybe need speed, but for f*ck sake, will everyone get off our best winger (and try scorer) ever's back!?! He plays well 99% of the time, and one bad game, and he's just become sh*te all of a sudden. Horne, he probably isn't good enough - but he works hard, and I admire that. So, next weeks 17 should be (if JS is here)

Grix

Cudjoe
Lawrence
Simpson
Hodgson

Brown
Brough

Griffin
Carlile
Mason
Fa'alongo
Gilmour
O'Donnell

Lunt
Ferguson
Crabtree
Larne

We're not done yet - 20+ rounds to go, don't forget.

Ahh, but you're a relatively new boy/girl!

Cheers though.

He has also been hampered by injury for most of those 14 months...

Personally I think Grix was immense at fullback, didnt make a single mistake (unlike the VR, what on earth goes on in the brains of these people?)

Cas played superbly to the conditions, its a tough place to go, the conditions were rubbish (and often the great leveller, for those of us that can remember winter rugby)

Consider this (and no disrespect intended to Cas). Can Cas play better? Can the Giants?

I am certain we will finish top 6.

I think the most disappointing thing for me was the lack of enthusiasm, they didn't seem to be in the right frame of mind for the game - typical example was the kick-chase. DB was putting some excellent kicks in down field but the chase (particularly in the first 20-25 mins) seemed vary laboured....might just be me though.

DB was kicking very positional at the start but then put some bombs up that went backwards or sidewards. So I think his kicking was not his best

You were doing so well until I noticed you have dropped McGillvary.

Cas out enthused us from the start - our line speed was rubbish from the off and we paid the price.

Lessons learnt I hope - send out the same 19 and tell 'em to get their s in gear this week.

In defence of Luke O'Donnell I think he will have received a culture shock on Sat night - I can't see him having competed in those conditions much in Queensland. Get him practising with a big bar of soap.

Grix was great and McGillvary finished well - he had plenty to do for that first try and it didn't look like anyone was going to stop him. The rest were pretty poop.

grix was the best player against cas, n you want shut?

Larne Patrick is a now regarded as a prop, Fa'alogo, O'Donnell and Gilmour are all second-rowers. Why should they be in front of him?

Oops, sorry about that. Gillers can stay move in where Cudjoe is, moving Bruno out. If Simpson stays, Cudjoe/Lawrance at Centre, Gillers/Hodgson at wing.

So, I think you are saying if Simpson's fit you would replace Lawrence with Simpson. Unless Simpson is fitter than first thought I don't think we'll see him for a few weeks so 2 to 5 will stay as Cas game.
Anyways, I don't think it's a good idea to call Jermaine 'Gillers' - will cause all kinds of confusion and I don't think I could stand another Lee Gilmour thread.

I would have thought Simpson would be fit enough seen as he's had a full pre season training with South Sydney.

I thought he'd been told he had 3-4 weeks of hard work infront of him before being considered for selection.
Maybe he's fit but needs to learn all the plays, get used to how team mates play etc. Still don't think we will see him for a few weeks.