Winning try apart - He put in tonnes of work tonight. Played long minutes, loads of tackles and hard yards.

Thought Eorl was superb , his work rate is fantastic , like Lawrence but is labelled "rubbish" because he doesn't do all the flashy stuff.

game changed in leeds favour when crabtree went off from his first stint

johnson gave some cheap pens away he will have to learn

It's nowt to do with flash it's because he's supposed to be our enforcer (the big man) and more often than not he gets stopped dead and goes down on his knees then takes forever to get up, he doesn't drive with his legs to gain that extra yard like some of his smaller team mates do. Don't get me wrong he is an ok forward but he doesn't exactly insight fear in the opposition like say Morley did . My point was he's OK and I don't think ok will win us the grand final. He's obviously got his supporters tho and it's just my opinion. Lawrence is a fantastic player !.

Jeez

Look at Crabtree's stats
Then come back with an argument based on actual reality instead of some made up fairy story


Eorl remains one of our best props, has been for years and is noticeable when he is off the field

Eorl
Av. Gain = 7.47
Tackle busts = 16

Rapira
Av. Gain = 7.14
Tb = 6

Huby
AG = 7.03
Tb = 4

Crabtree also makes less errors, has given less penalties and won more penalties than our other props

So, go ahead, what's he not doing right?

It's just what I see when I watch the games, it's also what alot of other people see , obviously not all , but as I'm entitled to my opinion it remains my opinion

Even when it's proven to be wrong?

or taking 4 men to put him down leaving gaps for the next play... he sometimes goes down early then to get a quick play of the ball

Eorl's big value to the team is what he take out of the opposition, can never fault his effort, Didn't see where he had been labelled rubbish.

An opinion- no matter how much you disagree with it can't be wrong.
It can be based on little, no, or downright spurious evidence - but it can't be wrong.

I'd disagree. and option can be proven wrong, a false opinion if you will.

Continuing to hold it in face of mounting evidence, well that's just odd...

I think Squiffdog has a point. Yes Eorl is a valuable player but I must admit it does irritate me the amount of time he seems to take to play the ball. In many ways this negates the great work he does get through. I suspect the apparent lack of effort that gets put in after initial contact is probably more down to coaching/tactics than lack of desire on Eorl's part.

I've no complaints the way Robbie Savage is playing in 2016,sometimes Eorl gets the 'over to you big man' pass when the structure has broken down,has no momentum so is better surrendering and trying to get a quick ptb.

I await figures on how quickly he plays the ball but I do think that if he offloaded more often that would negate the perception that from the time he hits the tackle things slow down as it takes 3 or 4 players to wrestle him to the ground. If we could get a quicker ptb the ball it would speed us up.

What I will say about work and the other Home grown players they are always the ones who seem to try the hardest when the chips have been down. Lefty and Bruno look like completely different players last season to this much better consistency and performance.