I've heard that the marketing team was pared down. I can't say I noticed the change, which suggests that perhaps the problem wasn't the number of marketing staff, but the quality and the budget they had to play with.

How many people were in Peter Deakin's marketing team when he triggered Bullmania back in the mid 90s? I bet it wasn't anywhere near as many as eight.

The chairman is constantly asking members to write something!

And I don't think there's been much heritage stuff in recently - but I'll pass the message on.

A lot of good ideas Conor. And on the rest of the thread. Maybe this offseason enough good ideas can be generated to build upto next season. The ones that stand out for me:

Identifying 5 big games to really push from a marketing POV. Actively target record attendances for the respective fixtures. Engage the supporters association, any other supporters groups, the e-fanzine and this board! There are obviously some really keen supporters on here that if could be grouped together could really do some good stuff. I'd say Leeds, Wire, Saints, Wigan and Hull or Cas picked as the 'tent pole' fixtures.

Mini season tickets. 6 games. Really helps people who live further afield who can't make every game.

Memberships. Make people feel a part of something.

Social media, social media, social media....... Can't underestimate the importance of it.

Make matchday as much of an event as possible. This is where we as fans can really make a difference. And I know stuff like this can get trotted out again and again..... The club listened to some of us about having a flag zone, and it just didn't catch on. This could be pushed again, flag funds etc. Get some real colour into the stadium. It wouldn't take many of us to group together to getting parts of the ground looking quality. I'd be more than willing to be involved in pushing this forward. Anyone else interested in this PM me.

When the dust settles on this season, and l start to get a bit bored out here, l am going to write something very controversial
lt will be entitled "is --- ---- fit for purp---", ln the meantime l will search out my old army steel hat, and be on the lookout for a foxhole.
Watch this space.

do we use crabtree enough? even people who dont know anything about rugby know who he is and who he plays for!

brough too..MAN OF STEEL.

get them plastered on social media, posters etc the latter costs money but the former not a penny

but when we have 8k likes on facebook and leeds have 221k we dont stand a chance, what a joke this is..needs someone to take social media things by the scruff of the neck

Agree we need to push social media, we could do with giving stuff away - signed shirts, ball, tickets to away games etc to get people 'liking' 'following' I know where there's free stuff I'm there lol.

I like the idea of the mini ST, but there is one problem in that there is a big risk of your 4-5k regular season ticket holders going for this option instead. If there isn't a big uptake from new fans, the club are left out of pocket.

Loving the ideas though, let's definitely work on it out of season!!

I would disagree about giving away things to entice people into following / liking you. You cannot 'buy' the right type of followers and why would people follow if there is no interaction?

The big difference between the Giants on social media and other clubs is the volume and quality of content. Leeds manage to tweet updates about almost every set and already have player cards ready to use when there is a try. The Giants policy is to tweet updates at 20mins, Half Time, 60mins and Full Time and there is little interaction.

Lets not forget that the club has recently lost a high profile court case relating to improper use of social media, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an element of resistance from the club.

i like those players cards, we should do this for sure!! sky sports use them too from the rhinos.

All the best fellas !

After displays like t`night -- the job just a `titch` harder again!

Three games to get it back on track methinks !!

Unfortunately, I think you raise a serious point. While we should of course be always making efforts to increase our support, performances like that we make it harder to attract new fans - and even retain many of the current 'fair-weather' fans. I think after losses to Wigan and Warrington in the play-offs last year it affected some fans who after winning the LLS thought they'd get a season ticket into thinking we still can't compete with the top sides when it matters so I won't bother just yet.

I've said before I think the only way that we'll make a leap in attendances will be after we lift either the Challenge Cup or win the Grand Final but it's important that when (and it will happen if not this season over the next few seasons) it does happen we have already done the ground work and already implemented many of the ideas suggested on here so that we can take advantage of it.

Who, who were there last night and thinking of buying for next year are gonna wake up this morning and spend £235 on that lot ? 4 people that i spoke to who were undecided had their minds made up last night, not just on the back of one game but the fact that after 27 almost meaningless games we get battered - again. Can't say i blame them but i'm a glutton for punishment and already renewed mine.

I renewed mine today - not sure what that says about my mental health!!

Theres hope for you yet pal

Been "renewing" over 40 years now and ...........!

Sorry -gotta go - man in white coat at the door!!

Got mine last week, also booked flights for the semi, and Final, don,t think l will be seeing any men in white coats Rod, they,ll probably waite till l get indorrs then board it up, apparently people like me should not be out on their own.

i don't like the restructure the key will be who we sign huby is a very good signing but we need a quality HB . and a replacement for Chan . at the moment are attack is a one trick pony i e ferris offload need another back row forward who can make breaks and can off load