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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Not much there not to agree with Bilko but it doesn't really answer my question , Yes you accept that some clubs need to go, but what you don't say about all this grass roots stuff is , Who is to pay for it ? S League clubs are saying it's not going to be them , they need every penny, The RFL are skint and i don't think they even cover their running costs.( Nobody makes any money except SL)
That's what i have been saying, There is more money in Darts and tiddlywinks than Rugby league and yet you are saying we don't want any truck with your Aussie Billionaires, whatever you call your Canadian team full of English and foreign players, All that said i don't see them being in SL long term unless some of that dosh finds it's way to ESL.

Think there are interesting times ahead in the next few years, going to be big changes, at least on a par with when Sky took over, and Sky themselves seem to be in a battle with Amazon , Netflix , Disney etc. maybe League will come out of that better with better deals.'"
Young lads after 15 years (sometimes younger) have conflicting interests that most certainly interferes with RL.Usually it is only the keen ones that seem to be able to unite the interests.I both played and coached for a long number of years so I do have first hand knowledge of this and I do keep in touch with a lot of my old teamates both here and abroad who cannot understand why we do not improve a great deal at any level all we seem to do is continually keep shooting ourselves in the foot.Some posters on here seem to think that gate money does not matter a 2000 gate nowadays generate circa £50,000 enough to pay 5 academy players wages for a season if each side brought in a couple of thousand spectators it would go a fair way to alleviate a lot of clubs cash flow.(yes it is pie in the sky).this is my own personal gripe against Catalans Toronto or Toulouse the league will bend over backwards for these clubs who do not/will not bring anything to the ESL table.I do no not pretend to know all the answers just a few and even they are scoffed at by some of the ruling body.Change must come but we may not like it when it does.Once again just an opinion.

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Quote: Canoeman "Well said...to the others quickly shake that head 20 times one way and then 20 times the other way...thats right get those cobwebs right out of there...its 2018 by the way. Toronto isn't going anywhere except straight to the top and no one can stop it...its like a tsunami!

"Believe With The Pack!"'"
You will have to get some Canuck players first.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Durham Giant "What a whiny pathetic thread.

If we are good enough we stay up as we are in a competition with 8 other teams 4 of whom will definitely stay in SL.

Issues to do with the weather the fixtures visas etc is rubbish.

I would love Toronto to come up and one of the consistently failing SL heartland teams to go down.

The game needs a boost and expansion to N America is as good a way as getting it as possible'"


Well said. The sooner we move away from heartland clubs who contribute nothing to the bigger picture the better

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Our chairman at Hull KR, Neil Hudgell has made it clear that Toronto are still the subject of due diligence. They are in the competition courtesy of the RFL but Neil Hudgell says the RFL failed to conduct due diligence, the RFL are not in charge of Super League any longer and the Super League clubs have a number of reservations.

The biggest being the inability of Toronto to host home matches during the first 2/3 months of the competition due to the harsh Canadian winter. Neil Hudgell has made it clear that the Super League clubs will not allow Toronto to have a skewed fixture list, during the frozen Canadian months of February & March they will not be allowed to play all games away...they can join the competition but only with the same conditions as every other club.

Whatever happens in the qualifiers don't bank on Toronto being in Super League next year.

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Quote: His Bobness "Our chairman at Hull KR, Neil Hudgell has made it clear that Toronto are still the subject of due diligence. They are in the competition courtesy of the RFL but Neil Hudgell says the RFL failed to conduct due diligence, the RFL are not in charge of Super League any longer and the Super League clubs have a number of reservations.

The biggest being the inability of Toronto to host home matches during the first 2/3 months of the competition due to the harsh Canadian winter. Neil Hudgell has made it clear that the Super League clubs will not allow Toronto to have a skewed fixture list, during the frozen Canadian months of February & March they will not be allowed to play all games away...they can join the competition but only with the same conditions as every other club.

Whatever happens in the qualifiers don't bank on Toronto being in Super League next year.'"


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In answer to your question jo- in my eyes the governing body should help to fund the game at grassroots level- it’s they who need to figure out how to facilitate that-as far as I’m concerned that’s their job. It will be partly funded by SL clubs in some respects anyway. There are ways that clubs could be involved for minimal cost such as running training sessions/coaching etc- which they could VOLUNTEER TO DO. Just like the regular coaches/first Aiders/touchline managers etc do!
I know some of this goes on-but more could be done. So many young kids move on to Union, not because it’s a better game, but because the coaching and facilities are better.

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Amazing how two of Chorley Jean's (Jean Capdouze) alter ego's find a thread on the Huddersfield board on the same day!! (Canoeman and Lebron James)

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Quote: bilko1941 "Young lads after 15 years (sometimes younger) have conflicting interests that most certainly interferes with RL.Usually it is only the keen ones that seem to be able to unite the interests.I both played and coached for a long number of years so I do have first hand knowledge of this and I do keep in touch with a lot of my old teamates both here and abroad who cannot understand why we do not improve a great deal at any level all we seem to do is continually keep shooting ourselves in the foot.Some posters on here seem to think that gate money does not matter a 2000 gate nowadays generate circa £50,000 enough to pay 5 academy players wages for a season if each side brought in a couple of thousand spectators it would go a fair way to alleviate a lot of clubs cash flow.(yes it is pie in the sky).this is my own personal gripe against Catalans Toronto or Toulouse the league will bend over backwards for these clubs who do not/will not bring anything to the ESL table.I do no not pretend to know all the answers just a few and even they are scoffed at by some of the ruling body.Change must come but we may not like it when it does.Once again just an opinion.'"



The gate has increased at pretty well every game that Toronto has played in the UK. This includes League 1 last year and Championship this year. Check out the numbers for yourself...they are factual. Your concerns about Toronto not bringing and putting fans into the seats over there is your own false misconception and any conclusions you draw from said false innuendo are not based in fact.
Check out the number for yourself if you don't believe me....you seem to have an unfounded inherent bias against Toronto which is not based in/on any fact but rather non-supported opinion...and a false one at that!

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Quote: bilko1941 "You will have to get some Canuck players first.'"

They will come to Canada eventually...they always do! Give us a bit of time...just look at what we have done in 1 1/2 years!!!!!!!!

It is certainly fair to say that in the entire history of Rugby League "No Club has ever come so far, in so short of a time, to the joy and disdain of so many!"

"Run With The Pack!"

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Quote: jools "In answer to your question jo- in my eyes the governing body should help to fund the game at grassroots level- it’s they who need to figure out how to facilitate that-as far as I’m concerned that’s their job. It will be partly funded by SL clubs in some respects anyway. There are ways that clubs could be involved for minimal cost such as running training sessions/coaching etc- which they could VOLUNTEER TO DO. Just like the regular coaches/first Aiders/touchline managers etc do!
I know some of this goes on-but more could be done. So many young kids move on to Union, not because it’s a better game, but because the coaching and facilities are better.'"


I know you won't believe me but we are in the process of changing that over here...JUST WATCH US DO IT!!!!!!!

"Learn With The Pack!"

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Quote: Hangerman2 "Amazing how two of Chorley Jean's (Jean Capdouze) alter ego's find a thread on the Huddersfield board on the same day!! (Canoeman and Lebron James)'"


As I posted earlier....shake that head hard 20 times so your jowls flap....blub, blub. blub, blub.

Good...now get off the booze and start seeing things in a more clear light....have a shower and a pot of coffee....maybe some buttermilk to settle the stomach.

Hang in there....the false delusions will eventually just fade away like Leigh in the Championship!

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Quote: Canoeman "They will come to Canada eventually...they always do! Give us a bit of time...just look at what we have done in 1 1/2 years!!!!!!!!

It is certainly fair to say that in the entire history of Rugby League "No Club has ever come so far, in so short of a time, to the joy and disdain of so many!"

"Run With The Pack!"'"
I would welcome any side provided they meet the ESL criteria but as I stands the so called Canadian team is made up of overseas players ie Aussies,Brits etc very few if any Canucks.The whole idea of having rules is so each and every side plays under them no exceptions If The Wolfpack can meet the criteria theN I have no doubt most supporters will welcome Them.As it stand WP will have to get rid of quite a few players too comply with ESL rules.It could or may put a hole in your canoe Canoeman. One more point that works both ways travelling a day to get to Canada or UK a day to recover play the game . Then a high intensity game a day back a day rest leaves no time to prepare for the next game! Think about it most fans here have.

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Quote: bilko1941 "I would welcome any side provided they meet the ESL criteria but as I stands the so called Canadian team is made up of overseas players ie Aussies,Brits etc very few if any Canucks.The whole idea of having rules is so each and every side plays under them no exceptions If The Wolfpack can meet the criteria theN I have no doubt most supporters will welcome Them.As it stand WP will have to get rid of quite a few players too comply with ESL rules.It could or may put a hole in your canoe Canoeman. One more point that works both ways travelling a day to get to Canada or UK a day to recover play the game . Then a high intensity game a day back a day rest leaves no time to prepare for the next game! Think about it most fans here have.'"


Don't get too hung up on the rules...rules change and some rules are made to be broken. I know this goes against the grain over there (rule compliant) but we (over here on the other side of the pond) are like a free range stallion that is in a corral....we are free! It seems the rules and benchmarks in the RFL are in a constant state of flux anyway....can you disagree?

Don't let that doomsday English attitude about the future of RL get you down...there are easy solutions. I have gotten holes in my canoe on numerous trips...ever hear of duct tape? Good as new I tell ya! Easy fix!

As far as the travel goes CDN/US football and hockey teams do it all the time over here...simply a question of proper scheduling and flexibility ...see....problem solved. RL needs a very large influx of Canadian 'Can-Do' attitude to move forward...TWP is the key to the future for RL...merely put the key in the lock, turn and push.

BINGO you are now in!!!!!! That wasn't so hard was it?

"Grow With The Pack!"

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Well done Canoe man paddling away i n choppy waters

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He does a lot of travelling, from Chorley, to Perpignan to Toronto!! All in the name of expansion (allegedly)

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