Couldn't get to game, Thursdays and Fridays are a nightmare for me. Seems universally disappointing from everyone that went.

Early days for the season, but nature of performance (from reports) post the second half of KR game is disheartening.

We have a good squad, with some really top strike players. I'm not too worried at this stage. My view was always that last seasons top finish slightly skewed our views of how good this squad of players is. Don't get me wrong, on our day we can beat anyone. But we were very fortunate with injuries to the creative spine of the team, and a lot players hit the form of their careers at the same time.

I still think we're a top 4/5 team, but start to this season may prove to temper some of our expectations. That in itself may not be bad thing?

agree on the agressive bit, teams are getting right in our faces and we dont seem to be coping?! why not?! our coach certainly wont like this... we have some agressive players too kaufusi/ferres/wardle/brough they do get stuck in but others need too aswell, cudjoe is showing authority now too

wouldnt mind turning into leeds rhinos if it meant we win the GF!

finishing lower than top aint good enough for me but people know my views on the comp!!!

Me too...balls to all this it doesn't matter rubbish , yes it does - i go to every game to see my team win, i want us to win every game and finish top and win the Challenge cup and the Grand final, each game we lose is a disappointment to me so every game does matter !

^ This ^

Given its £20 a ticket, less for kids, plus coach transport ... Could cost £100 for a family to go to an away game- I'd say it blooming does matter!

With all the negativity i though i would post the game stats.

Giants Widnes

metres 1474 1149
carries 211 177
metres per carry 6.98 6.49

tackles 307 339
missed tackles 17 25

offloads 18 6
breaks 4 5
penalties 7 11
errors 14 10


Nothing too much wrong with the stats and you would win the majority of games you played if you dominated like that. So maybe not as much wrong with the Giants as some think. Even discipline is good. I think if we can just find that bit of extra cohesion and cut the error count we will soon get back on track.

we had the game in the bag with 10mins to go then the errors came in... reminds me of the week before against hull kr

need to learn to close games out

the stats kinda prove what i said, that is that widnes were more clinical and executed their plays better than we did and there wasn't much between the 2 teams in all.
i have seen their last try again and still can't see whats gone on, looked like the tackled player released the ball in the tackle ( is that allowed?) and even then the tryscorer looks to be in touch when it was grounded.

on another day we would have won that game with a bit more composure,just one of those nights.

oh and on the stats, am i right to think murphy made the most carries and metres? if so, then thats a great effort

Murphy certainly made the most metres at over 200 whichis a great effort. But then both centres and wingers made more than 100 metres.
So all the outside backs were making good metres.

watching the widnes last try back again it looks like he was in touch before getting the ball out..

then hanbury putting the ball looked abit dodgy but the ref was right infront of that.

shame we dont get video ref at every game

I was at the other end of the ground, so accepted Widnes' last try was probably OK at the time, but, having now seen the highlights on SLTV, I'm amazed that it was given. Let's hope poor decisions even themselves out over the season. (or that we always get the benefit of the doubt during the playoffs!)

Just seen the try. He looks in touch when he releases the ball and grounding looks dodgy. Not good from the pictures.

He looked in touch from behind the posts at the time never mind on tv replays, i remember saying what's he doing the daft get at the match then realised they were actually given play on !! ah well