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Quote: GiantMisterE "Assessment...

We are so light-weight, it is unreal. Barring Taai, we have no strength.

Our strike props have all of a sudden decided to try to break the line with their backside instead of just trying to bust through. Those that do, make no yards.

Our right side can't tackle, our left side can't pass to hand.

Our line speed is dismal.

We have no speed in the three quarters and if we do, we can't utilise it.

We have no last tackle options.

We can't defend kicks and have even stopped catching unopposed bombs.

Someone was once made to look silly when they said you can't win anything with kids. However, when the kids are built like that, it's true. It really is like men against boys.

People are bagging Frawley, but how can a half play inventive rugby behind that pack.

But it's alright because most of our team are home grown and that's all that counts.'"



We need 3 new props to replace Matagi, Seb and Clough

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Our two best props are a winger and a second row.....

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simple question would Clough, Matagi, Seb, Bruno or Murphy get in a top 5 team? simple answer is no.

Murphy is past it now and should be a squad player.

Matagi was a gamble which hasn't paid off. People try tell me hea a unit. Really? Looks small compared to most teams props

Seb ha she deteriorated so much. He's uselessness now.

Clough did well last year but still not got the size.

Bruno is the best out of the 5 but I'm not a sure he's even good enough for a top 5 team

Plus the like and of Ferguson who needs to retire now, his body can't hack it

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Seb running straight for the first time this year in his second stint was a highlight...

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never looked like winning lastnight

kids couldnt back up as expected , need some senior players back asap.

mind you even the likes of mcgillvary and gaskell are letting us down at times now!

roll on next week for another team selection merry go round

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erm we knew last season we were a lightweight team

what was woolfords answer to solve it, nothing... well suppose you can say matagi was his answer icon_rolleyes.gif

least we will get rid of mellor and replace with edwards next season, bit more size on that score

hopefully next week we will get obrien and cudjoe back... better team then

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what was attendance?

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Quote: GIANTSRL "erm we knew last season we were a lightweight team

what was woolfords answer to solve it, nothing... well suppose you can say matagi was his answer
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Quote: GIANTSRL "erm we knew last season we were a lightweight team

what was woolfords answer to solve it, nothing... well suppose you can say matagi was his answer
Woolfords answer was to go with a mobile pack, many thought was quite sensible given the reduction in substitutions.....- the problem is a mobile pack only works if the pack is actually mobile
And since our pack has two speeds- slow and stop, without an offload or side step among them they aren’t able to compete.

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Quote: bilko1941 "Stop dreaming giantsrl any player who has been out as long as Leroy hasn't a cat in hell chance of regaining full match fitness all he will achieve is another injury!!!!! By the way just over 4,000 the attendance.'"


well they say he will play next week... heard that one before mind.

if he can have an injury free pre season without surgery like he has had to have past two then hopefully he can get back to not missing games but age catching up, one things for sure we need our captain back

thanks was hoping for over 4k

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Bring on the championship, A chance to get rid of all the yesterdays men like Cudjo Ferguson Bruno etc and the high flying big name duds from overseas. A chance to bring on some promising younger players and get them up to a higher level instead of using them like Chessmen. For the last 5 years we have had the worst pack in the league bar none,Every team we play just roll us down the field and we play most of the game in our 22., how is any half ever going to be any good behind a pack that just roll over. If we survive this season it could be the worst thing that could happen because nothing will change it will just be more of the same drivel. Its gone on for years now and enough is enough. This all depends on the club finding someone who has some idea about quality players and how to get them wanting to play and win for the giants of course, which eliminates most of who has been running the club for the last 10 years, so i wont be holding my breath, The one saving grace is you can always not bother to go.

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Bring on the championship, A chance to get rid of all the yesterdays men like Cudjo Ferguson Bruno etc and the high flying big name duds from overseas. A chance to bring on some promising younger players and get them up to a higher level instead of using them like Chessmen. For the last 5 years we have had the worst pack in the league bar none,Every team we play just roll us down the field and we play most of the game in our 22., how is any half ever going to be any good behind a pack that just roll over. If we survive this season it could be the worst thing that could happen because nothing will change it will just be more of the same drivel. Its gone on for years now and enough is enough. This all depends on the club finding someone who has some idea about quality players and how to get them wanting to play and win for the giants of course, which eliminates most of who has been running the club for the last 10 years, so i wont be holding my breath, The one saving grace is you can always not bother to go.'"


Erm- if we are relegated to championship then Cudjoe, Ferguson, Bruno etc would be better than what else we would be able to attract. These are players not costing us much!
Just who do you think would want to sign for a championship side......
We would be able to get rid of the overpaid overseas players though.

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Quote: jools "Erm- if we are relegated to championship then Cudjoe, Ferguson, Bruno etc would be better than what else we would be able to attract. These are players not costing us much!
Just who do you think would want to sign for a championship side......
We would be able to get rid of the overpaid overseas players though.'"


Yes i take your point jools i should have said that we would be able to be rid of them when we came back up, which i feel would be sooner rather than later. didn't make myself clear sorry.

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Bring on the championship, A chance to get rid of all the yesterdays men like Cudjo Ferguson Bruno etc and the high flying big name duds from overseas. A chance to bring on some promising younger players and get them up to a higher level instead of using them like Chessmen. For the last 5 years we have had the worst pack in the league bar none,Every team we play just roll us down the field and we play most of the game in our 22., how is any half ever going to be any good behind a pack that just roll over. If we survive this season it could be the worst thing that could happen because nothing will change it will just be more of the same drivel. Its gone on for years now and enough is enough. This all depends on the club finding someone who has some idea about quality players and how to get them wanting to play and win for the giants of course, which eliminates most of who has been running the club for the last 10 years, so i wont be holding my breath, The one saving grace is you can always not bother to go.'"

Half the young players we have now would leave so we’d be left with nothing but the yesterdays men

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Bring on the championship, A chance to get rid of all the yesterdays men like Cudjo Ferguson Bruno etc and the high flying big name duds from overseas. A chance to bring on some promising younger players and get them up to a higher level instead of using them like Chessmen. For the last 5 years we have had the worst pack in the league bar none,Every team we play just roll us down the field and we play most of the game in our 22., how is any half ever going to be any good behind a pack that just roll over. If we survive this season it could be the worst thing that could happen because nothing will change it will just be more of the same drivel. Its gone on for years now and enough is enough. This all depends on the club finding someone who has some idea about quality players and how to get them wanting to play and win for the giants of course, which eliminates most of who has been running the club for the last 10 years, so i wont be holding my breath, The one saving grace is you can always not bother to go.'"


Be careful what you wish for. Getting out of the Championship is not easy nor is attracting decent players for that level. Leigh and Widnes will attest to that.

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