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Quote: jools "Bloomin heck first folk blaming Faz now wardle. It was turner that was next to uate. He missed 5 tackles from 20, uate missed 2 from 4. 0 carries and 0 meters for faz too so not all good

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Quote: Joehudds "Agree I think it could be a few weeks until we see our first win , I think when/if we ever get a fully fit side then we should be good but until then we’ll struggle'"


yep and chasing the rest again

such a shame we have got it all wrong again, never learn

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Quote: GIANTSRL "yep and chasing the rest again

such a shame we have got it all wrong again, never learn'"

Its not just that we have injuries, I feel like we haven’t recruited in the right areas

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Quote: Joehudds "Its not just that we have injuries, I feel like we haven’t recruited in the right areas'"


Not only that we have recruited a lot of poor players some on long contracts the coach cannot getrid Of !

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Quote: Durham Giant "Not only that we have recruited a lot of poor players some on long contracts the coach cannot getrid Of !'"


Why bring in Uate when Darnell was brilliant on the wing last year why not bring in a quality full back , Frawley I think still needs time to gel with Gaskell but we needed a loose forward in my opinion cause as much as I like Bruno I don’t think he’ll cut it there

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Quote: jools "I’m not sure what you are getting at? Lawrence put it’s a LOT of hard work- whether he’s 1st man or third he’s still doing it more than any other player in our side and laying on??? Lawrence rarely gives away penalties and didn’t concede one last night. Mellor was second highest tackler so he’s hardly going missing! Maybe if some of the others did a bit more.....'"


I understand what you say, but I think your missing my point. It's better to watch and review the game rather than look at stats. Lawrence may be higher on the tackle count than most but for the majority of them, he is coming in after 75% of the tackle is complete.
And Mellor may also be high on the count, but if he is missing on three or four tries, then that's the stat that counts

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Quote: GiantMisterE "I understand what you say, but I think your missing my point. It's better to watch and review the game rather than look at stats. Lawrence may be higher on the tackle count than most but for the majority of them, he is coming in after 75% of the tackle is complete.
And Mellor may also be high on the count, but if he is missing on three or four tries, then that's the stat that counts'"


I’m more bothered about effort tbh. It’s clear we don’t have the most skilful of players in our squad- but you can make up for some of that with effort. I can forgive any player that missed a tackle after putting in 40. Less so if it’s missed after putting in 2.
No half back should have to make 33 tackles- if that’s happening someone else is lacking in effort.

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Quote: jools "No half back should have to make 33 tackles- if that’s happening someone else is lacking in effort.'"


Exactly!! Where's the loose forward to help him out? And who was his second rower on that edge??

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Faz has to make so many tackles as Salford targeted him, he should have had more protection but the plan was always tongetbat him, Mellor and Turner didn’t do him any favours, stats won’t tell you how both were caught out of position time and time again

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Quote: Joehudds "Agree I think it could be a few weeks until we see our first win , I think when/if we ever get a fully fit side then we should be good but until then we’ll struggle'"


Same old story, what you will find as in previous seasons is when the players start coming back morale is shot so we keep on losing.

I'm sorry but we accept garbage far too easily at Huddersfield. I've waited to post for a few days because i was absolutely fuming at the guff we served up on Friday night. First game of the seasons, AT HOME, against a side most tip to be in the bottom 2 and we were absolutely shocking. We were nowhere near winning that game, and although we had injuries there is absolutely no excuse for :

1) Shocking line speed in defence
2) Barely managing to get out of our 20 without a penalty
3) Getting dominated in every aspect of the game

When i saw team sheet i was worried that Farrell would be terrible like last time he played, but he fully deserved man of the match. They targetted him all night in defence and he stepped up to the mark, and had some really nice touches in attack too, saw him in a new light. Frawley is not the organiser we were hoping for, but , you can see that he is a very dangerous line runner, and if we knew how to back up would have scored at least one tries from his breaks (he was the only one who made one all night)

There is no excuse for our established players (many of whom have been spouting on the website about how much they are looking forward to 'ripping in') for producing such an utterly lacklustre display AT HOME in the first game of the season. No go forward at all, and slow, plodding , wait for the attack to make a play defence. It was utterly shocking and they should be embarrassed to wear the shirt.

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salford beaten us 5 times on the trot at home now.

why is it a shock to some we lost?

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Quote: Hangerman2 "Same old story, what you will find as in previous seasons is when the players start coming back morale is shot so we keep on losing.

I'm sorry but we accept garbage far too easily at Huddersfield. I've waited to post for a few days because i was absolutely fuming at the guff we served up on Friday night. First game of the seasons, AT HOME, against a side most tip to be in the bottom 2 and we were absolutely shocking. We were nowhere near winning that game, and although we had injuries there is absolutely no excuse for

I always look at the defensive line speed first and foremost.

If it's good it means you are -

Dominating the ruck and are able to set your line before the oppo has time to play the ball.
Showing intent.
Showing energy.
Showing confidence (in yourself and those around you).
Showing confidence in your defensive structures.

There were lots of people calling for offside against Salford but the reality was that their line speed was so much better than ours that our fans could only get their head round it by seeing Salford as constantly offside. Our play the balls were so slow that by the times we looked up Salford were in our faces.

Salfords first 2 tries were well worked but by the time they got near our line they virtually just had to flop over it as our defence had backtracked so much.

To say the onus this season is to build on our defence we are miles away.

As you say, a lot of 'best pre season yet' stuff but it all depends on how well the other 11 teams pre-seasons have gone in relation to your.

Looks like Salfords has gone better than ours!

TBF though the loss of key players in the lead up to the game must have disrupted us but there was no excuse for some of the defence we had on show.

Lots for the coaches to think about this week and an early season wake up call.

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Quote: GIANTSRL "salford beaten us 5 times on the trot at home now.

why is it a shock to some we lost?'"


Why is it acceptable to some that we play totally without energy , passion and any guts in front of our home fans. We lost the first game of the season without putting up so much as a whimper to a side many see as the whipping boys of the league, and it's ok because we lost the last 4 against them too?

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Quote: Hangerman2 "Why is it acceptable to some that we play totally without energy , passion and any guts in front of our home fans. We lost the first game of the season without putting up so much as a whimper to a side many see as the whipping boys of the league, and it's ok because we lost the last 4 against them too?'"


It’s ok- it could be worse- we could have conceded 8 tries to London and had brough sent off.

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Salford actually went into the game targeting Turner, they know that he's a bit slow to get across and by sending Evalds at him it made overlaps time and time again, Farrell playing was a bonus for them.

I was hoping Frawley would step up and be the dominant half but was a bit disappointed that he just seemed to be a bit of a passenger, still time yet.

Tactically we did ourselves no favours, coming out of yardage we went one man up passing to the first man every time, Salford compacted their defence and went in hard and fast, we lost collision every time and couldn't get out of our own half. All it needed was to throw to second man out or send an option runner and it would have held their defensive line.

Anyone know why English didn't return in the second half?

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