That's a realistic view, there has been nothing in what we have seen this season yet to suggest otherwise. We can hope of course and sometimes when you least expect a top performance is just when you get one, We did it a couple of times last season, but being honest Wigan and Cas look different class to most sides, Not expecting much but will be happy to be surprised.

You're winning at arf tarm, 10-14.

Yes excellent, sounds a different team to last week. Well done so far.

Great effort, played as a real team today, showed togetherness and got some reward.

Loved the selection changes with Gaskell move and McIntosh coming in. Not the only contributor, but shows how much Brierley has been stifling the play this season so far.

Still a slight concern over decision making in attack, but fantastic effort...let's carry this monemtum into next week against Leeds (and let's hope Danny is still with us then too!)

Maybe he should be sacked every week?

well thats more like it, some positives to take from today..still lots not to be so happy about either mind

we would have taken a point at the start of today lets be honest but wigan were there for the taking today and once again we failed to take our chance, out game management is diabolical and has been for years, we cant close games out of make right plays/decisions, thought bringing in hinchcliffe would have helped but hes the same as the rest. no wonder we havent made a grand final or won the cup, we cant deal with the pressure, especially danny brough.

brough missed a kick straight infront of the posts first half then missed a drop goal at the end

on the positive side.. that point could well come in handy at the back end of the season.

mcintosh was solid under some stern pressure from wigna with bombs etc and handled it perfectly

gaskell at half back is def the way to go, credit to stone for changing the team , wasnt working with brierley

look forward to next friday, welcome back ferguson which should help our attack again

yep, should have been 8-0 and end up 6-6

remember wakey 12-0 up?

we just cant manage a game, we had the ball in the 2nd half with 8 mins to go and throw an offload and lose the ball?!!?

brough kicks early in the tackle and its a garbage one and wigan get the pen and leeming sent to the bin

really frustrating but its been going on for years, why we have lost all these semi finals and finals , we cant cope with pressure, maybe its brough , he didnt deal with it today again

yep same, brough is a legend and always will be but it maybe time for change

Agree about Brough. Although he is generally our best player on the pitch (although maybe not as much recently) i do feel that he stifles those around him somewhat, and for all his brilliance he really can't cope with pressure situations. Put the two together and this is why we often lose close games. Other players feel that brough has to be the one to make the calls and he often doesn't handle those situations well.

That being said he is the best player i've personally ever seen in the claret and gold since i started watching during the Murphy era, but every dog has his day!

This Brough bashing is hilarious.

My eyes must be going funny because I swear I just read something about getting Ellis back in to take his place. Equally hilarious.

I don't rate Ellis personally but he may work well with Gaskell. However to replace Brough we need to sign someone of better quality than Ellis.

Any positives after drawing with the previously 100% world champions on their own turf ?