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| Quote: GiantJake1988 "Thought our forwards Taai and Ikahihifo were superb as soon as they leave the field we really struggle. Mason in next week?
Mellor runs strong and looks to graft
Didnt think Clough, Rapira or Wakeman offered much really
Gaskell links up well to create breaks.
Leeming was excellent 2nd half.
All tries we concede seem to be down Leroy and Jerrys side? 3 at Widnes and 3 today?
Our defence is utterly abysmal.
Senior players Brough and Hinchliffe like 14 year old kids when we have made a break - no composure throwing stupid passes.
Murphy really does get exposed with lack of pace when ball gets thrown out wide - massive get out of jail card for Johnson going into touch, absolute feeble attempt at tracking back.
We ALWAYS seem to concede the first points in any game whether by penalty or by try.
2 or else 3 times we were on the last tackle instead of kicking to try get another set we just handed the ball over - RIDICULOUS.
Everytime we have a chance to get our noses in front we make wrong decisions it really is worrying.
Going off that tonight we will be fighting for 8th spot.
Final say
yes thought our props of the bench let us down lastnight, wakeman and clough poor
dont get why we played rapira at loose forward!
gaskell looks quality in attack for us joining the line, brierley not so good so far
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| that pen just before half time to salford was a killer as was the 40/20 just after half time from that those they gained 8 points
got to give the giants some credit for getting back in the game twice and almost pulling it off
early days still plenty of postives
salford we really good too, especially in defence and obrien had a cracker with a try and 7 from 7 kicks
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| Quote: Jo Jumbuck " Brough is our main play maker, If he is not good enough then start to look for a replacement now, not when it's too late.
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Just turned 34.
This probably ought to be his last season as a first pick, although I suspect he will soldier on to the bitter end like Briers did.
IMO the club needs to be putting 100% into finding his replacement and have him in place for the start of next season.
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| Quote: Steve May "Contrary to the general belief, it's quite a step up from the NSW Cup to Superleague. On top of that, he's moved country, to a new job, knows no one, and is playing in a UK winter for the first time.
Players like that are always a risk. Even if he ends up as a superstar it will take time.'"
Didn't he play with Ikahihifo for Illawara Cutters?
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| Quote: TBC "Didn't he play with Ikahihifo for Illawara Cutters?'"
Not sure. But even if you know one or two people it can still be hard to adjust to a new place.
The players are just people. And they come with all the same baggage and personal stuff that non-players do.
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| yeh will take wakeman a while to settle in, also not had a pre season, same goes for mamo
look at ikahihifo now after a full pre season with us! a beast
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| Just said same as GIANT DAZ last night. We always make a mess after a good away win. We promote the home game as good as we can, and when a reasonable crowd turns up, the team always put in a substandard performance, making the future home games an uphill battle to attract extra supporters.
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| Quote: thepimp007 "On last night I think Gaskell and Brierley should be switched around. Gaskell is better close to the line and Brierley seemed to take the wrong option a lot. Dont think this result will have a bearing on your season I still think if you win most games against the teams who will be further down you still have a big chance of the 8 if the rest of your pack can lift to the levels of your two starting props last night'"
Brierley is another Danny McGuire. Does begger all but can finish given the chance. Unfortunately that team cannot give him a chance, so he offers nowt
As far as swapping him with Gaskel, we saw last year he can not play fullback
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| Lots of positives and negatives from last night however I feel pretty frustrated that we aren't finishing our created chances once again. I'm hoping it's just early
season-syndrome.
Confused about Rapira's role... not sure if Brierlys strengths were deliberately not used and very much questioning why Mason and Smith are sitting in the stands over Wakeman at this point in the season until he adjusts to new lifestyles, settles in and gets used to our training regimes.
Defence is an issue that needs sorting.. probably a priority.
Seb and ta'ai were brilliant. Leeming was outstanding and should start games to see how he goes. Broughs kicking out of hand is as impressive as ever.
Nice to see good attacking on our left edge too. Mellor has great potential.
I suppose we have to take Stone's comments on taking a couple of years to start challenging again seriously and take any win we can and hopefully scrape into that 8.
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| Quote: AntonyGiant "Lots of positives and negatives from last night however I feel pretty frustrated that we aren't finishing our created chances once again. I'm hoping it's just early
season-syndrome.
Confused about Rapira's role... not sure if Brierlys strengths were deliberately not used and very much questioning why Mason and Smith are sitting in the stands over Wakeman at this point in the season until he adjusts to new lifestyles, settles in and gets used to our training regimes.
Defence is an issue that needs sorting.. probably a priority.
Seb and ta'ai were brilliant. Leeming was outstanding and should start games to see how he goes. Broughs kicking out of hand is as impressive as ever.
Nice to see good attacking on our left edge too. Mellor has great potential.
I suppose we have to take Stone's comments on taking a couple of years to start challenging again seriously and take any win we can and hopefully scrape into that 8.'"
Agree with most of that apart from boroughs kicking- his long range stuff from hand is good but his short kicking game has been very poor.
What worries me is the same problems are still there. Still forcing those last plays and messing them up- whether that being the forced pass, getting caught with the ball or a poor short kick. Still clueless from close to the line- we made it so easy to defend against us in their 10. Still letting in tries down that RHS. Still generally poor defensively. Rapira at loose was a terrible choice- he's not mobile enough to fill those defensive gaps like Hinchcliffe or Lawrence can.
I can sort of understand why he's playing wakeman- he needs game time if he's going to improve and he can't get it anywhere else as he's not allowed to go dual reg whilst mason and smith can.
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| Quote: Steve May "Not sure. But even if you know one or two people it can still be hard to adjust to a new place.
The players are just people. And they come with all the same baggage and personal stuff that non-players do.'"
True.
He's also missed pre-season which is a big minus not just for fitness but knowing all the plays. He's also playing at a higher level for the first time in his career.
Lots of hard work and adapting to do - think it will be well into the season before we see him really settle down.
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| Quote: Giantscorpio "Just said same as GIANT DAZ last night. We always make a mess after a good away win. We promote the home game as good as we can, and when a reasonable crowd turns up, the team always put in a substandard performance, making the future home games an uphill battle to attract extra supporters.'"
yep happens every time
chance to get off to a good start at home and we blow it with quite a few newcomers, hope they come back next friday but may have missed the chance again now
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| Quote: brearley84 "yes thought our props of the bench let us down lastnight, wakeman and clough poor
dont get why we played rapira at loose forward!
gaskell looks quality in attack for us joining the line, brierley not so good so far'"
All can say is after the way Sebastine & Ukuma ran the ball up,the interchange forwards now know what they have to live up to,if they don't put the same effort in they are letting the opposition off the hook.
Rapira didn't look comfortable as the loose man,maybe better off the interchange
A fb joining the line looking so dangerous to the oppositon,how long have we been waiting for this.
Stone needs to keep building Brierley's confidence in terms of decision making,I think RB's capable of getting this right in the long term.
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| Quote: Sheepridge Giant "All can say is after the way Sebastine & Ukuma ran the ball up,the interchange forwards now know what they have to live up to,if they don't put the same effort in they are letting the opposition off the hook.
Rapira didn't look comfortable as the loose man,maybe better off the interchange
A fb joining the line looking so dangerous to the oppositon,how long have we been waiting for this.
Stone needs to keep building Brierley's confidence in terms of decision making,I think RB's capable of getting this right in the long term.'"
Yo Paulie...bang on that lad, Seb and Ukuma have set the standard now, can the others match it ?? they will need to !!
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Yo Paulie...bang on that lad, Seb and Ukuma have set the standard now, can the others match it ?? they will need to !!'"
Yo Daz b me say u is gangsta with that call b - safe an summa dat b - touch.
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