I totally agree.

My view is that Top 8 is the minimum requirement for the season.

Top 4 is where we should expect to be. Winning the whole damn thing should be the aim and something that is achieved at least every five or so years.

And I'll state again, that the real problems at the club are off the field. The executive team that has failed to grow the club significantly in a decade needs replacing. This isn't the fault of the players or the coaches.

Couldn't agree more, but you know as well as me that saying stuff like this just brings out the spin doctors, and the one's who claim you are not a true fan for having such thoughts. It does IMO opinion account for the " we can't expect attitude ".

The most baffling thing to me is, why is it allowed to go on.

the clubs target will be win the cup and win the grand final ofcourse.

fans can be abit more realistic after the season we have just had, hope we can get back on track, top 8 would be a start!! top 4 would be brilliant

im behind stone and hope others are too

As I said
Aim for the top as always
I'll be happy with 8th after this season
I want us to win everything


Also good post Daz re HGSA

I keep meaning to join!

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My view is this - if you don't want what you say 'getting out'; don't say it. If you believe that you can say it in a small forum like an HGSA meeting and it won't get out, you are tacitly admitting that you're a small club. If you were a big club with all eyes on you, you wouldn't risk saying anything in any public forum that you didn't want to become public knowledge. I'm not too fussed either way to be honest, my expectations of the club have dipped and I don't see any sigbificBt change happening until, like Steve says, changes are made at C level.

Without wanting to abuse or insult people again, can i ask, to those who say the problems lie off the field rather than on them, in your opinions what exactly is the problem, i've yet to see anyone actually give a reason other than certain people aren't doing their jobs properly.
I am intrigued as to what people think is the main off field problem, without resorting to slagging certain people off please, i don't care about people's personal opinion on the Chairman, CEO, directors etc just what you think the problem is.

As for the HGSA, then it is open to anyone,not a select few, there are no secret meetings taking place, no conspiracy going on, just decent people giving their opinions on things and answering questions from supporters as honestly and diplomatically as they can, given their roles within the club.

What better reason is there than 'someone is not doing their job properly'?

And I beg to differ; a meeting where people are asked not to discuss certain items outside the meeting is by definition a secret meeting!

No it isn't Baron Greenback

At all

It's not secret! anyone can come and hear what the guys have to say, it's just understandable that they don't want everything out there in the public domain as some of it is, personal and off the record stuff, nothing secretive at all.

I'm not going to argue semantics with Code. You asked why people might think that way; that's why.
A well known physicist said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.... Tell me what's being done differently at the Huddersfield Giants this coming season?

So you expect those that own the club to sack themselves?

Are you saying there is more than one owner ?

I don't expect anything from the club jools, except more of the same , I said i was baffled not Expectant, and i am, I have explained why before. Mr Davy is obviously a very clever self made man, and yet It's hard to see how he lets things stagger along year after year in the manner they do at the Giants.
There are people inside the club who have made the most horrible Gaffs more than once, and yet there they still are, If the Giants were a high street business or a Co in industry they would have been long gone now, That is what baffles me.

I know you are a bit of a champion of the club and in a sense It's a credit to you, but in the end you do the club no favors by just accepting everything as the best can be done.

We have one of the best stadiums in the game , we have a big catchment area, and we are in S League, Why is the club no further forward ( further back now than it was 5 years ago ) and why are the same people who have taken it there still running the club, That is what baffles me about Mr Davy.

KD is not short on Bottle, he has plowed his money in, yes he got the Giants for nothing, and he has 20% of the stadium for his money, For me he deserves a lot more , but the ball is " and always has been " in his court.

I have seen quoted on here that he is a very loyal man who doesn't fire people easily, That may well be true, but he does fire them eventually ( Sharpe, Anderson ) because they were not up to the job, Yet there they still are this group of people, seemingly safe and sound in their cosy little jobs, while the club makes yet another fresh start " on the field ".

In my experience of business, success starts at the top and carries down through the whole structure, Only it doesn't seem to carry down from Mr Davy himself, Why do we keep getting rid of players and coaches who are not good enough, and yet keep people higher up, who seem to be quite clearly also not good enough. Have we got the NHS and Banking Syndrome.

Any way It's just my opinion, and i Know there are plenty on here who hold different views. I have seen them before, Maybe It's this , Maybe It's that, we have only half as much money as X Y and Z, the club are doing the best they can.

The bottom line is the club is going backwards and times are changing in League, we survived this time by the width of a goal post, With clubs like Toronto and Toulouse coming along, it ain't going to get easier.

So I expect very little change from the club jools. This is written under the assumption that Mr Davy is still the owner.

And this is just a straight contradiction in terms, " Anyone can come and hear it " but " they don't want everything in the public domain" If there is logic in that it escapes me.