yes agree about Ellis on Eorl, big swinging uppercut that everyone saw but the officials! said at the time eorl should do it back but we know hes not that type of player

yep agree, eorl used to be great at that but seems to have been coached out of him, hope the same isnt going to happen to huby, he tried it yesterday and nobody was with him?!! this is how he plays, why bring him to the club if you arent going to utilise his style of play which is top drawer

Thoughts the day after are that we werent very good yet only conceded 3 tries? 1 looked from a forward pass, the last very well could have been waved off for obstruction on wardle.

defence pretty good which is where we needed to improve from last season.

the area we were poor is attack, which is understandable with new hooker and half backs partnerships... lack of games in pre season not helped on that front.

such a shame there will have been many new fans with the buddy vouchers yet we served up that, how many times does it happen they wont be back for the next home game against widnes now, the usual hardcore will be.

regarding brough, he is the captain..he is allowed to talk to the ref, he can lose it abit too much at times but this is him and what makes him what he is.... a maverick player, not long ago man of steel and still one of the best player in the league.. he will win us more games than he loses us this season.

his kicking game was off yesterday though too.

All good halfbacks have a bit of a screw loose and can get into a battle with the refs.

So you had a slow start to the season, no dramas. You’ll improve I’m sure.

If you miss out on the top four by a mile then think about a change of coach. Until then it’s hardly doom and gloom.

If Eorl had have hit him back then no doubt it would have been spotted and he would have been red carded.

Thing is if that had happened to a Wigan, Sts, Wire or Lids player his team mates would have rushed in, not neccessarly punching, but in doing so they'd probably force the officials into awarding them the penalty. At Fartown it seems to be "every man for himself" don't know if this is why our "Giant" pack look so soft and ineffective when teams take us on down the middle and get stuck in., We're sadly carrying on from our woefull displaysfrom the back end of last season. Amazed that Anderson, who mixed it with the best when he was a player seems content to let this continue. jerry also got a bit of the Eorl treatment in the first half and as usual our players just stand around hands on hips looking at the ref for a decision that isn't coming, all the top teams force the issue by showing theyr'e not going to stand for iticon_eek.gif . Time all our players started standing up for each other and stop being pushed around so easily. Don't know what our "game plan" was yesterday but it clearly wasn't working, if we have got a "plan B" why wasn't it used and if we haven't got a "plan B" we'd better hurry up and get one because if we don't it's going to be a long long season.

He loses it too much. He nearly threw the ball at the touch judge yesterday. Stopped himself at the last second.

I just don't think he's captain material. Great player, poor captain.

yep he's a maverick player...what makes them special

like you say its early days, didnt look good though but warned people before about this disrupted pre season.. going to take a while for us to get into gear, not the season to be doing that though!

yes! someone said the exact same thing infront of me yesterday

Our players are too soft. When Ellis punched Eorl he should have been given 10 minutes, but the touch judge just came for the money and a stellar view of the game. He was never going to make any calls. If it had been the other way round and Eorl had got 10 minutes our fans would have been sayng how ill-disciplined he was. Having said that we can be more tough and stay on the right side of the rules. The problem is other than Brough and a couple of others, nobody appears fired up. More raw meat needed, players need to know if they are not putting everything into it, then someone else is going to get picked. Anderson needs to think about pre-match and how to get the players ready for a battle.

said the same elsewhere, wish the players would show the same passion as brough does, we got rid of one softie in patrick.. might need to be a few more on yesterday

ferres and wardle show aggression... funny that , they both play outside brough too... inspires them? others should follow

So looking at the Superleague tries show, one hull try was an offside from a kick, another from an obstruction. Neither would have counted in a sky game.

Great - we'd have still got....... Nil points.

watch again, your player ran into the hull player after the first dummy run, who was then stood still, would've been harsh to call it off, unlike mcguires try against hull kr which was stone wall obstruction!


first try was marginally forward, no worse than a few of the cas tries showed tonight!