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Yes the entry price needs to come down as it's certainly a stopping point for those who refused to buy a season ticket due to the way we've collapsed in the previous two seasons. As pointed out in another thread they need to do a double ticket offer but I doubt this again will work as twice this season the club have done a double ticket offer and one of the games have been changed ala Wigan and Catalans.
One thing I do notice is that Kirklees have a full rear of a double decker bus advertising for foster carers as well as other stuff taking full backs of busses so it can't be that expensive. So a few buses trundling through Huddersfield with a big Eorl would certainly catch the eye. Although as a kid I always knew the next game at leeds Road yet never had a clue what was going on in fartown, as they always had the white sign just by the door you entered. maybe First bus should start this old tradition but not with Town but Giants.

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The Craft Event was an HGSA initiative and was primarily aimed at maximising the game-day experience. We haven't got the manpower to publicise such events around the town.

However, if anyone wants to help, there's a Kids Disco before the Salford game.

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Quote: El Diablo "I think the key for you lot is for the club to capitalise on success. For instance, when the play-offs come around, what you really need, more than the gate money, is bums on seats. I think the RFL (who I believe largely control play-off ticket prices) have some responsibility here, which I'm sure they'll fail to discharge...

At Leeds we like to pretend that our crowds have been huge for as long as we can remember. This is, of course, not true, nad I can certainly remember times when crowds of 6-8k were pretty commonplace at Headingley.

You have to get the product to sell itself. Your stadium does you know favours. Half empty stadiums kill an atmosphere pretty well, but that can't be helped.

But, if you get 15-16k in there for a play-off semi on a nice evening, and win a tense game you WILL get those people to Old Trafford, and a lot of them will come back. Success breeds success. Once crowds go up, the atmosphere improves and the matches feel more exciting, more of an event and people are more likely to part with their cash to be part of it. The trouble is, for the reciprocal of those reasons, low crowds are a tough cycle to break.

I actually think they're a symptom of the wider sport's image and PR too. You can look at the turn-out at Salford with their target population too. Leeds get good crowds, but look at the size of the pond we're fishing from. It might help therefore if other teams' fans (including, but not limited to) Leeds', stopped chelping at those of you who are turning up every week and started to think about the wider interests of the sport. If the product is hard to sell with a team playing as well as Huddersfield, there's a warning bell for other clubs that they shouldn't be too short-sighted to listen to.

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Good post.

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An advertising board by the entrance to Kingsgate stating the next game date is a start

Or anywhere with high footfall

It's also something that we don't do now

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Quote: El Diablo "I think the key for you lot is for the club to capitalise on success. For instance, when the play-offs come around, what you really need, more than the gate money, is bums on seats. I think the RFL (who I believe largely control play-off ticket prices) have some responsibility here, which I'm sure they'll fail to discharge...

At Leeds we like to pretend that our crowds have been huge for as long as we can remember. This is, of course, not true, nad I can certainly remember times when crowds of 6-8k were pretty commonplace at Headingley.

You have to get the product to sell itself. Your stadium does you know favours. Half empty stadiums kill an atmosphere pretty well, but that can't be helped.

But, if you get 15-16k in there for a play-off semi on a nice evening, and win a tense game you WILL get those people to Old Trafford, and a lot of them will come back. Success breeds success. Once crowds go up, the atmosphere improves and the matches feel more exciting, more of an event and people are more likely to part with their cash to be part of it. The trouble is, for the reciprocal of those reasons, low crowds are a tough cycle to break.

I actually think they're a symptom of the wider sport's image and PR too. You can look at the turn-out at Salford with their target population too. Leeds get good crowds, but look at the size of the pond we're fishing from. It might help therefore if other teams' fans (including, but not limited to) Leeds', stopped chelping at those of you who are turning up every week and started to think about the wider interests of the sport. If the product is hard to sell with a team playing as well as Huddersfield, there's a warning bell for other clubs that they shouldn't be too short-sighted to listen to.

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good post.... massive point on the half empty stadium bit which alot of people forget and its why our crowds look so bad on tv.

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I agree, the stadium does us no favours at all, in a smaller ground, 5/6,000 would look quite full and create a better atmosphere than having 5,000 spread out across 20,000 seats.

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to me the stadium isnt the issue, town manage to get 10k in and they create a atmosphere with plenty of empty seats, so theres no reson why we cant aim for the 10k mark, in fact against saints the atmosphere was great with 5500 there, to me its all about price like daz says, i personally know 10 people who cite this as the reason they dont go to every game.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "This is it, we all have ideas but it seems the people paid to get the crowds in dont seem to have any....the crowds are down and i presume losing money so why not try something for a couple of games.

The matchday price definitely needs to come down though because that is the single reason most people i speak to give for not coming !!!'"



I can assure you that all the ideas mentioned and MANY MORE have been raised with the club at the highest level.

It is my biggest source of frustration and demoralistion.

I then read Mables post and realise it is even worse than i think. The worst thing is that ideas have been put to the club about how to improve all of this for very little financial outlay or extra paid staff.

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Quote: goodie "to me the stadium isnt the issue, town manage to get 10k in and they create a atmosphere with plenty of empty seats, so theres no reson why we cant aim for the 10k mark, in fact against saints the atmosphere was great with 5500 there, to me its all about price like daz says, i personally know 10 people who cite this as the reason they dont go to every game.'"


we will never average 10k a season.. even if we win something.

you cant lower the gate price too much, otherwise people may aswell not bother buying a season ticket and a season ticket is the best way to help the club and also for the supporter supposed to be the cheapest way.

hudds town got 4700 for lastnights pre season friendly.. 300 short of what we got going top of the table on sunday, its a foootball town, how much publicity did the town game get..more than our game on sunday? dont believe so.

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Quote: Durham Giant "I can assure you that all the ideas mentioned and MANY MORE have been raised with the club at the highest level.

It is my biggest source of frustration and demoralistion.

I then read Mables post and realise it is even worse than i think. The worst thing is that ideas have been put to the club about how to improve all of this for very little financial outlay or extra paid staff.



Has there been any feedback on these ?


Also, Brearley, there was 5,700 at our game so its 1,000 less not 300.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Has there been any feedback on these ?


Also, Brearley, there was 5,700 at our game so its 1,000 less not 300.'"


i know but 700 were from cas so 5000 were giants fans

doubt real betis brough that many to watch versus town icon_lol.gif

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Well it seems the club is concerned as this piece in the Examiner www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... te-5355444

Though the club website doesn't yet suggest the cut price tickets.
Well it seems the club is concerned as this piece in the Examiner www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... te-5355444

Though the club website doesn't yet suggest the cut price tickets.


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Good that they listen and that they have reduced prices but how are people going to know about em ?? this is why we need posters in town telling people who we play, when and how much !

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to me dont understand and never have, why these special deals always require people to go to stadium to buy the tickets or on line purchase, wouldnt it make more sense to reduce the turnstile price on the day so people can just decide on the day to go.

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Quote: goodie "to me dont understand and never have, why these special deals always require people to go to stadium to buy the tickets or on line purchase, wouldnt it make more sense to reduce the turnstile price on the day so people can just decide on the day to go.'"



Good point or again, some kind of stall in town where the club can sell discounted tickets to people who just happen to pass by and see what its all about .....the 'fans' are gonna go anyway so its no good keeping it hidden away on the website where only the fans will see the offer..........GET INTO TOWN AND FLOG THE TICKETS !!

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