maybe but most of the rumours i do hear do actually become fact, this time i may be wrong though doesnt really matter now though to be honest bodgy left 2 years ago to a lot of abuse from certain sections of our fans, as nb is now having the same problems.

A captain should either lead with passion or example, Brown is only capable of one in all honesty and neither on occasions. I'm sorry to say giving him the armband was a mistake regardless him leaving, but he's not the route of all our problems, just one of a few.

They looked like skeletons. No passion, no drive, nothing! You see some captains, when under the posts, giving a motivational talk, bollocking folk etc. Our captain can't do that because 2 of yesterdays tries were because of his shocking defence!! You'd have to say wire were good yesterday, hats off to them. They ve got 3 - 4 leaders on their team, we ve got no one!!

From an outsider watching the game on TV yesterday I thought Huddersfield most importantly lost the battle up front as your forwards could barely break a tackle & were getting smashed by 3 WIRE men tackling virtually every time. I like Mason and Crabtree but they were ineffective. With no go forward your off form backs struggled even more.

I do think that K.Brown and Grix had very poor games though. For me Greg Eden should have remained at full back as he looks very good, quick & would have posed more of an attacking threat than Grix. Thought Murphy was poor on the wing as well, made a few mistakes and does not seem to have the pace to play that position. Again Eden could have played there if not full back.

I know this goes onto another thread but I'm also surprised that Coach Brown has gone public with the player power thing & a change of attack options? Seems really unprofessional there must be trouble at mill . St. Helens will be thinking they've made the wrong decision signing him up for next year

admitting you have lost the dressing room is a terrible thing for a coach to do- it intimates you have no motivational skills or management skills.

What did Garry Schofield say about Brown before?

Irrelevant

Schofield said it so any correlation with actual events is pure, unadulterated luck.

any body heard anything about kevin today regarding losing the captains job or even leaving the club heard a strange whisper this afternoon but not seen owt official.

We could do with the cash that would enable us to bring Mullally in early (if those rumours are true) we've plenty can play loose- Moore, fooey, fairbank, lod, lee or even Lawrence! Put eorl fairbank/mason Mullally and Patrick at prop for the rest of the season!

Nothing stirring at our end at the moment about taking Brown early. Not sure it would fit in with our planned spend which is all out of next years budget. But as they say never say never.

More likely that Anderson will want to switch the captaincy to someone who is sticking around.

Not too many days to wait to see if an early move will happen!

Here's a thought

Given that Browns best position is still probably at centre (IMO) why not shift him there while we are down our first choice I Wardle?

Probably the best way to go.KB unfortunately doesn't shine often at 6 in big games.Just lacks that vital yard of pace.

On Sunday KB defending on the left edge let Atkins run around him for one try,and got sucked in by a decoy runner to leave a huge gap for Hodgson to stroll over in the second half.I appreciate he was defending outside of Gilmour,but with them two in there I expected that edge to be more solid.

Problem then is who moves to stand off to replace him.

Brough to 6, Robbo to 7

Wonder if it might be worth a shout sticking tommy lee in at halfback?he started out as a 7 didnt he? I have nothing against kev brown at all but like his namesake i think he has gone as far as he can with us.