Yes

100% True, and the blame lies with Nathan Brown.

Bradford 30-0?
Warrington 60-4?
Mid Season Dips every season?

It all has to be for some reason.

Oops

Last week a ref robbed us but this week we were outclassed. Well played Wire, men vs boys

Bad loss,Wire get the field position,(how) then the decoy runners go through,Briers & Hodgson working both sides,and an inspired choice putting Bridge @ 13.Going soft,normally wait at least 5 days before complementing the opposition.

But we can regroup and we are good on our own patch,nowt to fear.

No reason why we can't win the prelim semi on our own patch,no reason at all.You mention MM,that was our props dominating,that is what is wrong now.
Cudjoe's a big loss though,our only class centre.

Then go to the QSF and anything could happen,just one big performance

Must admit I'm typing this and at the same time thinking to myself you're puddled shut tf up,but who knows,we aren't out of it yet.

ganson absolutely spanked us tonight but so did wire!
as frustrating as gansons constant whistle blowing was,it wasn't half as frustrating seeing our lads capitulate and roll over again.defence was woeful and we are totally cluless in attack. we are shot and theere is no fire in their bellies anymore,game over im afraid

Yes the ref was poor,but in all seriousness you can drop any ref into that game tonight and the score would be the same,Wire were dominant in all areas and Hudds could of played till midnight and not scored.The ref isnt the issue here,it lies with the team and the coach and they need to look at fixing it.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

Before everyone starts saying 'knee jerk reaction' I am really beginning to think that Nathan Brown has possibly taken us as far as he can with the players at his disposal. I am just wondering what excuse will come out this week. That performance was unacceptable and an insult to our finishing position on the ladder, no other team that finished 4th would have lost by that margin tonight.

No sour grapes at all Wire were decent but we made them look like world beaters. It was like the bad old days last night in the early days of Super League when that scoreline was a weekly event for the Claret and Gold. The players need to have a long hard look at themselves - we look a spent force this season.

Danny Brough for example looks a shadow of the player he did before his injury - just an observation.

Just not good enough at the end of the day but expect some sort of response next week.

I am not going to give Ganson much space on here but he is a complete HOYSER always has been. Not blaming him at all but when will the RFL realise that the game is about the two teams and not him. Consistently inconsistent. A BAD NIGHT ALL ROUND.

We were outplayed by a very good Warrington team......after Ganson had basically handed them all the posession for the opening 25 mins to build up a scoreline. there was no way we were gonna come back from that and any chance for a decent evenly matched game was taken away by that whistle of his .

no point blaming ganson, nilled again...poor

but ive been saying for months on here how poor we are, fully expected a defeat last night like that.

grix had his worst game for us lastnight, topped his poor show at salford. (yes good under the high ball, backing up, fans player of the year etc and i like the lad) but a brett hodgson,tompkins, greenshields he aint...

where has watson the conditioner dissapeared too???? something has gone on, not even on the pitch doing the warm up, now left to lolesi

next season we need to employ two new backroom staff, watson and lolesi out.

and get rid of the squad players... 6/7 can go and bring in 2 quality players with the spare room in the salary cap

Ganson was whistle happy in the first 20 mins which didn't help the Giants cause but the simple fact is that Nathan Brown got his tactics wrong. You didn't need to be a genius to know that Warrington would come out all guns blazing, & yet NB left one of his best defenders on the bench at the start of the game?

Giants defence was woeful. The one on one tackling was dire. You were four tries down before one of your best defenders (Raleigh) came on to the pitch?? With that type of tactic it's amazing that you made 4th in the league this year.

Once again NB's "favourites" and Giants so called "star players" under performed in a big game. His team, his players, his tactics. his (un)motivational half time team talk. Ganson is not your problem.

NB putting Faiumu to 9 and Larne Patrick to 13 was an attempt to fight fire with fire.Ganson's officious reffing stopped our momentum,we had to back off from the arm wrestle we would have liked.

Then the problem is some of our dynamic ball carriers are not the best defenders,and our best defenders are not as dynamic.

Not taking owt away from Warrington,they are a class side and probably would still have won with different ref interpretations.

We finished 4th because we played some tough football early in the campaign,some sides have upped their intensity towards the business end of the season while ours has unfortunately dropped away from what it was.

I'd agree with a lot of your comments Sheepbridge but I'd also quote that well known phrase...............DEFENCE WINS GAMES.

As for dynamism/defence skills of your players, these are the players that NB signed, so the buck should stop with him. What would worry me even more as a Giants fan, would be the seeming lack of response from the players to his half time team talk??