grix talking about that 'try' today in examiner

he was shocked it was given. stripped by chase.

It was bloomin obvious it was stripped out. VRefs.

Whats the point of them again?

...and i used to think silverwood was one of the better refs

But...

... as that was virtually Cas's first attack in the 2nd half we might have kept our momentum going and totally outclassed Cas???

I thought it was definitely stripped and even after that I thought the player seemed to lose control of the ball in putting it down.

Should have been no try for mine

Watched it a few times now and to be honest there isnt a conclusive angle that gives any reason to disallow the try. We all suspect Rangi Chase stripped the ball but unless the VR can be 100% certain that it was stripped the protocol states you cannot disallow the try. So by the letter of the law its a try

So basically if we get 5 fellas surround a player who's being tackled in goal, strip the ball out so it can't be seen by cameras, then it'll be a try?
Rangi Chase gave himself up by raising his hands when the ball came loose. Anyone with half a brain cell knows you never see a player raise his hands trying to look innocent unless he's guilty.

Basically yes.

Are you saying the try should not have been given on the basis that he looked guilty?

One of the problems for me was, even before the strip and even if you can't directly see Rangi Chase strip the ball he was dragging - which if I remember correctly isn't allowed?

Personally it was a no try, however it wasn't what lost us the game and the thing to remember is the team will have an off-day, maybe it's a good thing the team got it out of their system early on? Who knows...

One thing I did note this weekend with our game and the Hull vs. Leeds game on sky was the referee’s reluctance to award penalties - it's almost like they were trying to balance out the Millennium Magic weekend. Might check the stats later when I get chance...

But to put the whole thing in perspective as bad aswe played we were only that try away from getting a point.

If we can be close to a point after playing so badly we can feel optimistic that we will be getting lots of points when we play well.

ATEOTD It was never never ever a try but if Cas has not won the game it would have been an injustice. They were by far the better team and we were just not at the races. Will need to improve this week against Hull who will be looking for their 1st points, should be tasty

what would you know anyway ........your only a referee

I'm not saying I agree with the decision but I'm saying by the letter of the law it was the correct decision.

I'm just using common sense which some refs seem unable to use. Rangi Chase has his hands on the ball but then due to numbers of other players the sight is lost. Then Rangi raises his hands(why else would he do this if he hadn't stripped it?). I'm no rocket scientist but it's not hard to work out what happened whilst the ball is out of sight.