Yeah, I used to play against them, the atmosphere was flatter than Paris Hilton's chest.

Nobody should ever be allowed to play a musical instrument inside a stadium unless they're a professional musician. You only have to hear the godawful noise produced by the tone deaf numpties who insist on playing the same bar of the theme from The Great Escape or The Italian Job at England football matches to see that.

But they do create a atmosphere dont they, people join it. It is very easy to play a drum and get a tune and a beat which you want.

If they're so easy to play why do Town fans constantly complain about Ian and Liam hitting that thing they do????

I can't stand drums, they hinder atmosphere rather than create it!

I love drums.

We need at least 4 more drums around the Farm.

Bring it on.

Boo!!

got to disagree about the no songs bit - we have loads of songs but as no one knows them or joins in they dont get used, and liek has been said - the songs fade out too quickly cos no one joins in !.

As for the drum - NO ! who ever says drums help atmosphere were obviously not at Wigan where they banged a drum constantly for 80 mins with no one joining in singing !
Yeah Big G does help for the 1st couple of times but after that it becomes annoying as its the same thing for the rest of the game and people get bored of doing it then

I find it funny when people look at you when you sing one of the older songs.

But then again that may be because of my singing.

Don't forget that guy infront of me who had a go at me for being loud and singing.

thats cos none of these new fans know the older songs but we will persist

oh dear !

We need new songs i can count only 6 songs which we have which is rubbish so dont say we have a lot because we dont, every time someone comes up with a new song it is just met with sigh's and complaints sing it and see how it goes. One of the main problem with our so called singers is that they would rather sing songs to each other than about the team, you may disagree but i never miss a game and this does happen. We need to start putting some effort in, if we beat the crusaders the away leg will be perfect to start new songs. Less negativity and more positivity if not we will go nowhere. Also why dont you pop down to the Supporters Assosiation we can start to come up with ideas then.

FFS. There are more important things going on at the moment than your own inflated opinion on whether or not we have enough songs. It's gone beyond tiresome. I can remember 10 years ago when there were less than half the numbers but the atmosphere was better and we all sang along. It's already been explained why it's not as good at the moment yet you just repeat the same old guff, over and over.

You want less negativity yet see nothing wrong with criticising on here. So called singers this, not enough songs that.

In 5 days we have a massive game you know. Huge game. Much more important.

Rubbish, i could sing 10 songs that we have sung in the past - the problem is not with the amount of songs its the amount of voices singing them .

I go home from every game with no voice and i have done for 25 years nearly now whereas the majority of people have never done that.
Part of the problem too is we have situations where the younger ones at the back dont know the song that the 'older' ones are singing so just resort to singing something different over the top - usually der der der der - insert players name here - or Fartown Fartown which is far too fast and rushed.
and lets stop the Barmy army chant and get it back to how it should be - claretgold army !!

Now you see thats what i like to hear fans who put some effort in, if we can just get some of the younger ones as you say to learn the songs then we are up and running, we need more than one tune and start to sing proper songs even if they have not been as common over the last few years. I myself am only 18 but i always join in on the songs no matter what, nothing beter than getting behind the team as it does make a difference.
Danril have a touched a nerve with you or somthing because i will tell you somthing this is a issue that does need sorting out as it could hinder the growth as a club. If what your saying is sort this out later, well how much later we need to act now.

What I'm saying is that you're just repeating what you and many others have said before on here time and again and basically insulting those of us who have been there and done it. You're belittling the singers that have been following the club for 20 years plus and that were once your age and are now rapidly approaching the land of wrinkles and grey pubes whilst totally ignoring reasoning suggested for why the atmosphere can be a little flat at times. You've not actually suggested anything constructive at all. So let me tell YOU something. If you honestly think giving it the Big Mister on here, making inferences about people not putting the effort in etc is going to change it then you're kidding yourself. Suffice to say you haven't put me in the singing mood. If you think taking action is posting complaints on a message board where many of the posters are the ones who've sang their hearts out with the best of them for Christ knows how long then you're kidding yourself.

Yes it would be great if we all blew the frigging roof off from minute one to eighty but it's going to take more than a drum and a song sheet to achieve that.