Kirmond is no centre.

he was a winger, now a second row, l say he is a great prospect for

Greame Horne; left a bottom-three club for a top-three club - bet he can't believe his luck...

Danril, Bet he never packed down either , but he learn´t
he´s fast, strong, got good footwork, can tackle, young, fit, athletic, oh yeh
he carn´t pass

Packing down in a scrum in todays game is not a skill like knowing how to time a pass and having the technique to do it.

He has size, he's amazingly strong and has good feet for such a big man. He's not a winger any more, he's certainly not a centre and I very much doubt he sees himself anything other than a second rower.

Michael Lawrence knows how to pass, he can time a pass. He's been doing it since he was playing U11's. Kirmond does not have that ability and it's going to take more than a couple of training sessions to pick up those kind of skills.

I agree Kirmond is no centre and Gilmour should not be used in the centre either.

The centre positions should be covered between Lawrence Watuira and Lolesi who i did not include as a second row as he did not play there all last season.

I agree with then above although i do think Jammer did play some time at second row last year.

2nd Rowers for 2010?

Manu, Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, Radford, Tickle, Burnett just off the top of my head.

G Horne has always been good cover for us but wont be challenging for a regular start for you unless you get masses of injuries like we seem to get.

Faologo,Wild,Gilmour,Aspinwall,Kirmond,Raleigh,Finnigan,lolesi, horne

we are strong in the second row

i rate manu, fitzgibbon and radford but think we have a better 2nd row than hull

Horne would not get near our best 17. With a few backrowers recovering from ops it makes sense to get some cover. As GH has been looking for a club for months the chances are he has been signed on a very low contract. Once bodies are back he can be loaned to the likes of batley and will cost us even less! An experienced youngish player offering cover in a few places - on a short contract with something to prove - and costing little seems like a good bit of business.

All those injuries you had....I blame the conditioner

Just lost all credibility now , hopfully he wont be anywhere near our best 13, our backrowers should be Tickle and Fitzgibbon both are excellent players, with Manu off the bench and Burnett as backup (who looks an excellent young player). Pretty happy with our backrow, saying that a backrow of:

Raleigh, Gilmor and Wild (all British as well)with Faologo off the bench looks very exciting.