anderson told them at half time to just knock the sets out and defend

we did far too much defending in the first half which sapped our energy in the last qtr, should have seen roberts earlier

that schoolboy error from connor just before half time to give them the ball and let them score was a bit turning point

anyway widnes deserved the win

We do not have anyone who can effectively manage a game, close a game out. how many times have we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, the likes of Sinfield knew how to play, when to play, speed up, slow down, read the game, chose the right option at the right time. Talk to, and organise the team, he had plan A,B,C,etc, he had composure, but could wing it when called for.
We have plan A,
plan B, see plan A.
We are a very good side, but sadly have always lacked a real leader, a thinker, a controlled organiser, I think that's what it takes to make a good team great. without one we,re not going to the next level.

Completely agree, isn't this why we brought in Hinchy?

That's good logic if you knock out a set and kick it into touch 10 yards from the opponents try line and hold onto the ball when you have got it.

Connors was no more a school boy error than Murphy and Brough colliding on the disputed kick on try both handed Widnes momentum/points that we failed to staunch.

Grix had the ball and lost it in a straight forward tackle and that cost another six points.

Gerry failed to pick up a ball near the line a bit more difficult but you'd expect an England winger to deal with it and it was followed by six points.

Twice we were caught out playing too narrow and conceded in the corner on a relatively narrow field. The organisation of the defence is supposed to be the Grix speciality.

At 16-0 up the game was there for the taking Widnes deserved to win because we made it that way for them it was almost a rerun of the Castleford match.

Just hope that at long last we recognise this 'reality check' and stop snatching defeat from what should be the jaws of victory.

i thought that too

connors try led to them getting back in the game, it was 16-0. before that we had a try disallowed too which i thought was a try... game over then!

anyway ive said many times widnes deserved the win no complaints about a few decisions

If the ref or touch judge gets it wrong it's RL it happens but at 3 scores up one 'iffy' decision by the touch judge shouldn't matter it was the errors and lack of game management by the players that cost us the game.

If the coach told them to play out the sets and kick he had got it right build pressure force errors none of the errors we made would have occurred from long distance kicks but instead we got the pressure ones inside our '20' and made the errors that led to scores.

Come on, if you say stand there and make a tackle, and that player misses the tackle, how can Grix be criticised.

He is getting far too much criticism for other peoples mistakes. He knocks on one and gets slated. Jerry knocks on - no comment.

Hinchcliffe misses a tackle 5 m from the line and people around me take great pleasure in saying it was Grix at fault.

Give the lad a break, and support him rather than taking pleasure in us conceding tries just so Grix can be slated!

that was poor from hinchcliffe indeed

24 unanswered points, will never win games wi stats like that, all forwards looked knackered yet kept a kid on bench till 10 minutes from end, YET AGAIN!!!! same old drivel churned out in his interviews, sick to death of hearing it, how he can mention games such as Wakey away, Leeds and Catalans away as steps in the right direction is beyond me. Leeds are shocking and the whupping boys of Superleague (thank the lord for small mercy's) Catalans as did Cas had loads missing and we still couldn't beat em ( do us a favour Mr A)

ah lets cast our minds back to magic weekend

Magic was best we played all season to beat a shockingly poor Saints team who seem to be going backwards. Shouldn't let it paper over the gigantic cracks though.