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| Quote: brearley84 "
mellor needs to be dropped, does nothing, sam wood has to replace him!!! please.
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Why do you think he's done nothing? The stats paint a very different picture.
Second most metres this season
Third most carries this season
An average gain per carry of well over 8 metres
Eighth most tackles this season (most of all the backs)
Seems like he's done plenty to me!
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| Quote: no fear "Why do you think he's done nothing? The stats paint a very different picture.
Second most metres this season
Third most carries this season
An average gain per carry of well over 8 metres
Eighth most tackles this season (most of all the backs)
Seems like he's done plenty to me!'"
Well he would be high on the "mosts" list since he's played more games than the rest.
His go forward is very good- his defence is suspect. He needs to work in that significantly.
He's not quick or agile enough to be a top centre, his strength is that of a second row but his defence isn't good enough to be in the middle.
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| Quote: jools "Well he would be high on the "mosts" list since he's played more games than the rest.
His go forward is very good- his defence is suspect. He needs to work in that significantly.
He's not quick or agile enough to be a top centre, his strength is that of a second row but his defence isn't good enough to be in the middle.'"
Yes Jools, being high on the "mosts" lists shows Mellor has done rather more than Brearley's claim that he does nothing.
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| Quote: brearley84 "one thing i dont like from brough is how he blows his top at say mcintosh when mcintosh puts a kick through or whatever, its like if its not brough that can do it then no one can!!!! yes brough is the main playmaker but dont have a go when others chance their luck... not like brough is causing havoc for defences right now is it'"
This has always been my only gripe with brough, as i posted on a thread some weeks ago, there is plenty of evidence to show that he stifles the other playmakers. He is without any doubt our best player, but he has a responsibility to bring those on around him and make us a better TEAM. It always appears to me that the other playmakers are fearful of showing their full range of skills because of retribution from Danny if either he doesn't get to make a play, or they make a play that isn't what he would have done. This in turn, makes us a very easy team to counter, because opposition know everything goes through brough. We would need a very strong character, of equal ability to maybe change this situation, and i don't see us signing anyone of that calibre! A couple of occasions when he didn't play last year, others were forced to take the responsibility and looked far better for it.
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| Quote: no fear "Why do you think he's done nothing? The stats paint a very different picture.
Second most metres this season
Third most carries this season
An average gain per carry of well over 8 metres
Eighth most tackles this season (most of all the backs)
Seems like he's done plenty to me!'"
you not been watching the games?! our left side defence is shot to pieces and he has been part of that left side for every game
play every game and you will be up in stats
he had one good game against salford when he scored two tries, since then nothing but woe... still young but hes not a centre , sam wood is better
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| Quote: Hangermans "This has always been my only gripe with brough, as i posted on a thread some weeks ago, there is plenty of evidence to show that he stifles the other playmakers. He is without any doubt our best player, but he has a responsibility to bring those on around him and make us a better TEAM. It always appears to me that the other playmakers are fearful of showing their full range of skills because of retribution from Danny if either he doesn't get to make a play, or they make a play that isn't what he would have done. This in turn, makes us a very easy team to counter, because opposition know everything goes through brough. We would need a very strong character, of equal ability to maybe change this situation, and i don't see us signing anyone of that calibre! A couple of occasions when he didn't play last year, others were forced to take the responsibility and looked far better for it.'"
yep, gaskell has been kicking more though, hope it continues, gaskell is looking very good . like the way he takes on the line, hes made a few clean breaks recently doing this...just need players backing him up...brierley would be ideal for that! maybe mamo now too
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| Quote: brearley84 "you not been watching the games?! our left side defence is shot to pieces and he has been part of that left side for every game
play every game and you will be up in stats
he had one good game against salford when he scored two tries, since then nothing but woe... still young but hes not a centre , sam wood is better'"
I haven't seen anyone claim that Mellor doesn't have areas in his game which require improvement; you just seem to be erroneously equating his deficiencies with a lack of work, namely 'nothing'.
Second top metres, third most carries, most tackles in the backs... and does nothing! Perhaps the question of whether I've been watching the games should be readdressed?
It is a fanciful perception of a couple of people on here that his stats are only to be expected as he has played all the games. Would the others be averaging 20 tackles and over 100m at over 8m per carry if they'd played every game? How many of them are currently doing it? And remember, he was signed as a squad player and is predominantly a second rower.
To spell it out, I'm not defending Mellor's defensive frailties; it is quite clear that there are issues with his game in need of work and improvement. Nor am I saying we shouldn't be in search of an improvement - he's a young second rower with heretofore limited Super League experience playing centre and is being exposed. The point I am simply making is that he does a commendable amount of work for the side, not 'nothing' as you suggested. Even without looking at the actual stats I'd have thought his work rate would have been noticed, unless of course you not been watching the games (sic).
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| Quote: no fear "I haven't seen anyone claim that Mellor doesn't have areas in his game which require improvement; you just seem to be erroneously equating his deficiencies with a lack of work, namely 'nothing'.
Second top metres, third most carries, most tackles in the backs... and does nothing! Perhaps the question of whether I've been watching the games should be readdressed?
It is a fanciful perception of a couple of people on here that his stats are only to be expected as he has played all the games. Would the others be averaging 20 tackles and over 100m at over 8m per carry if they'd played every game? How many of them are currently doing it? And remember, he was signed as a squad player and is predominantly a second rower.
To spell it out, I'm not defending Mellor's defensive frailties; it is quite clear that there are issues with his game in need of work and improvement. Nor am I saying we shouldn't be in search of an improvement - he's a young second rower with heretofore limited Super League experience playing centre and is being exposed. The point I am simply making is that he does a commendable amount of work for the side, not 'nothing' as you suggested. Even without looking at the actual stats I'd have thought his work rate would have been noticed, unless of course you not been watching the games (sic).'"
Remember brearley said wardle did nothing in the same position last season....
I'd give mellor a rest at some point over the Easter period though. He's young and should be given the chance to recharge
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| Quote: no fear "I haven't seen anyone claim that Mellor doesn't have areas in his game which require improvement; you just seem to be erroneously equating his deficiencies with a lack of work, namely 'nothing'.
Second top metres, third most carries, most tackles in the backs... and does nothing! Perhaps the question of whether I've been watching the games should be readdressed?
It is a fanciful perception of a couple of people on here that his stats are only to be expected as he has played all the games. Would the others be averaging 20 tackles and over 100m at over 8m per carry if they'd played every game? How many of them are currently doing it? And remember, he was signed as a squad player and is predominantly a second rower.
To spell it out, I'm not defending Mellor's defensive frailties; it is quite clear that there are issues with his game in need of work and improvement. Nor am I saying we shouldn't be in search of an improvement - he's a young second rower with heretofore limited Super League experience playing centre and is being exposed. The point I am simply making is that he does a commendable amount of work for the side, not 'nothing' as you suggested. Even without looking at the actual stats I'd have thought his work rate would have been noticed, unless of course you not been watching the games (sic).'"
Indeed.
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| Quote: jools "Remember brearley said wardle did nothing in the same position last season....
I'd give mellor a rest at some point over the Easter period though. He's young and should be given the chance to recharge'"
wardle in his own words couldnt be bothered last season.
we can stick with mellor then who is playing out of position at the moment, he not a centre but suppose needs must
surely sam wood be a better option than mellor at centre right now?
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| whilst on stats with mellor
he has the most missed tackles in our team 26.
thats the 2nd highest in super league,
10 errors which is the most in the giants team
9th in super league overall
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| Quote: brearley84 "wardle in his own words couldnt be bothered last season.
we can stick with mellor then who is playing out of position at the moment, he not a centre but suppose needs must
surely sam wood be a better option than mellor at centre right now?'"
That's not quite the quote I heard from wardle- but perhaps you can put a link to the quote where he says he couldn't be bothered.
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| Quote: jools "That's not quite the quote I heard from wardle- but perhaps you can put a link to the quote where he says he couldn't be bothered.'"
'hard to get motivated' thats what he said in his own words... read between the lines... once he signed elsewhere he couldnt be bothered and you could see it in his performance not only last year but also the year before that when he sulked because he didnt feel he was on enough money at the giants.
i like players who want to play for the giants and give their all being a fan.
good luck to him in oz now he has his motivation back he can go well.
think joe wardle thing has been done to the death now, said my piece on him enough now!
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| It's hard for me to get motivated every day in my job- doesn't mean I don't give it my all though as my professional pride wouldn't let me do otherwise. Something being hard to do is very different from not being bothered to do it!
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| brearley has never liked wardle and its weird hes far better then mellor
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