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| disagree durham, dont think he has been a disaster
took us to the next level
great defence coach, developed unknown players and brough on the youngsters
just the right time to go now.
hope anderson can continue the good work he did but leave out the things he didnt do right and there was def a few of those!
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| think brearley has got it spot on for me.
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| Quote Cripesginger="Cripesginger"A nice fantasy.
"the club will get him the rest of the way."
"He's moving into a machine"
" His job is to tinker"
That is plain silly, believe it if you need to.
If you think the following are smart moves you will love NB:
- Hohiai or Lomax to 13
- shenton / turner at prop
- Roby at prop
- or after a loss [ switching full back and wing / right wing to left centre, back row to centre, left centre to loose forward (never played there in his whole career)you could not make this stuff up.
He had a far better , bigger machine at St George and under achieved.'"
Nathan Brown is not the only person who will have a say in the way Saints play. There are players on contracts at Saints that will be as long as Nathan's, there are also coaching staff who will remain long after he has gone.
I find the notion of Nathan Brown being an unmitigated disaster far more silly, than the notion that Nathan Brown will not move into Saints and change the club from top to bottom. Sports clubs are machines, there is a production line of players coming through and Nathan's initial impact will be on the 1st team players.
Granted by his 3rd year he may have made some changes throughout the structure of the club, but that will only have any impact in 4 or 5 years time as the current 14 - 15 year olds come through to play in the first team. The scope for him signing anyone else for next year is limited and given the state of contracts at Saints 2014 is where we will see more moves and more players that are genuine Nathan Brown type players coming in.
There have been many discussions about NB, since it was made know that he was coming to Saints. I don't expect a revolution next year. 2014 will be the time he can really ring the changes he wants.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Nathan Brown is not the only person who will have a say in the way Saints play. There are players on contracts at Saints that will be as long as Nathan's, there are also coaching staff who will remain long after he has gone.
I find the notion of Nathan Brown being an unmitigated disaster far more silly, than the notion that Nathan Brown will not move into Saints and change the club from top to bottom. Sports clubs are machines, there is a production line of players coming through and Nathan's initial impact will be on the 1st team players.
Granted by his 3rd year he may have made some changes throughout the structure of the club, but that will only have any impact in 4 or 5 years time as the current 14 - 15 year olds come through to play in the first team. The scope for him signing anyone else for next year is limited and given the state of contracts at Saints 2014 is where we will see more moves and more players that are genuine Nathan Brown type players coming in.
There have been many discussions about NB, since it was made know that he was coming to Saints. I don't expect a revolution next year. 2014 will be the time he can really ring the changes he wants.'"
Either you want Nb as your head coach or you want him as a member of some extended committee. what percentage of say will NB have? 25%?...42%?.....73%? Do tell.
Only one poster has said NB is a disaster. Feel free to reply further to his post. I have given a reasoned 'analysis' why NB has been okay. You have signed a sound assistant coach who as a player and coach has bottled it in far too many big games..
Sadly you are incapable of seeing the difference between a machine and a sports team. But lets run with it. Nathan is a very good formula 1 mechanic (assistant coach) but a 3rd rate driver (head coach).
do you think selecting Wheeler and Roby at prop would be smart? Or dropping shenton in at 13 is a smart move. I hope so because that is what tinkerer brown did at hudds?
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| Quote Top Saint="Top Saint"I would say probably a combination of the bottom 2. I think all Giants fans should remember where you were 20 years ago and realise just how close to extinction you were. Nathan Brown is one of a number of coaches who have restored Hudds to their rightful place at the top of the game. You have had your best 4 years since the 50's and that should not be forgotten despite what has happened over the last 10 weeks.'"
Yeah,I very much agree with this.
As long as NB does not bag us the loyal few thousand fans when he moves to Saints he will always be a legend in my book.
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| Quote Cripesginger="Cripesginger"Either you want Nb as your head coach or you want him as a member of some extended committee. what percentage of say will NB have? 25%?...42%?.....73%? Do tell.
Only one poster has said NB is a disaster. Feel free to reply further to his post. I have given a reasoned 'analysis' why NB has been okay. You have signed a sound assistant coach who as a player and coach has bottled it in far too many big games..
Sadly you are incapable of seeing the difference between a machine and a sports team. But lets run with it. Nathan is a very good formula 1 mechanic (assistant coach) but a 3rd rate driver (head coach).
do you think selecting Wheeler and Roby at prop would be smart? Or dropping shenton in at 13 is a smart move. I hope so because that is what tinkerer brown did at hudds?'"
He will have the say that a head coach has, but that is not 100% control, it never has been never will be, Huddersfield and Saints have both shown this year that players have elements of control. If you read some of Longy's comments on Saints this year you will see that the more experience Saints players had input with Daniel Anderson with regards to style of play. It would be unrealistic to suggest that a head coach will come in and make changes top to bottom in his first year as players have contracts that they can hold onto. There are players NB may not want, but he will have to work with them until they are out of contract.
ps Shenton?????
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| Well over the top to say NB has been an unmitigated disaster imo. Yes, he's done alot of things wrong, but he's also done alot of things right as well, let's not forget that. Those of us who have suffered the years of real pain of following Fartown can see he has taken us from being the whipping boys of SL to being what I would call "the best of the rest" ie better than most teams but still not genuine contenders for silverware.
FWIW though I do think he's stayed too long & the club was going backwards....not just the last few weeks but I have to say I feel he should've gone last season. Also, the fact he hasn't gone back to Oz but has jumped ship to Saints is poor form imo. All the turmoils of previous seasons were due to his "I'm off home....no I'm not" shenanigens & for him to then turn round & go to another SL club after all that is a bit off in my view.
Still he's done alot for Fartown though.
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| I think for the saints board their main worry should be the fact that at both clubs he has "lost" the dressing room in a big way. At st George he could perhaps been forgiven for being young and inexperienced and in a position where he was having to manage guys he had once played alongside.
Robbo said in the early years that brown was a breath of fresh air compared to sharp and the best coach he'd worked under- but clearly at the end the players were unhappy and rebelled against him.
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| How anyone can claim a coach who took over a mid table team and turned is into a well respected team contesting the top 4 each season and 2 cup semi's a first wembley appearance in 40 years,a team that has beaten leeds at headingley for the first time in 50 years,then to do it in succesive seasons,a coach who has brought through some young quality british and local talent and had us playing some cracking stuff and turned is into sometimes feared opponents for the top clubs,can be considered a disaster is beyond me, were all entitled to our opinions and i respect that,yes he's done some bad things and got things wrong but i prefer to see the bigger picture,it's sad that it ended like this but i certainly appreciate what he's done for us over the last 4 years
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| Nathan Brown has been very good for giants even after last seasons will he go or will he stay upset they still finished in good position, ok didn't win anything but still creditable finish. I'll take what he's done for giants and thank him. I've followed Huddersfield since I was old enough to be lifted over turnstile at Fartown. So the last four years for me have been good ones. Also as someone pointed out possibly on another thread about being the first season able to spend up to the salary cap I think that the first time Giants had that ability was the season John Sharp went.
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| Quote meast="meast"How anyone can claim a coach who took over a mid table team and turned is into a well respected team contesting the top 4 each season and 2 cup semi's a first wembley appearance in 40 years,a team that has beaten leeds at headingley for the first time in 50 years,then to do it in succesive seasons,a coach who has brought through some young quality british and local talent and had us playing some cracking stuff and turned is into sometimes feared opponents for the top clubs,can be considered a disaster is beyond me, were all entitled to our opinions and i respect that,yes he's done some bad things and got things wrong but i prefer to see the bigger picture,it's sad that it ended like this but i certainly appreciate what he's done for us over the last 4 years'"
Spot on.
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