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| Quote Steve May="Steve May"Jo, I’m not sure why you think we have the players to compete. The recruitment over the past three or four years has been desperate at times.
Grix - gone, no replacement
McGillvary - improved enormously
Cudjoe - injured but still outstanding
Wardle - gone, no replacement
Murphy - shot as a player, but still here
Brough - shot as a player, but still here
Robinson - gone, no replacement
Crabtree - gone, no replacement
Lunt - gone, no replacement
Kopczak - gone, no replacement
Ferres - gone, no replacement
Chan - gone, no replacement
Lawrence - steady player, hasn’t progressed
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Faiumu - gone, no replacement
Patrick - gone, no replacement
Ta’ai - still got it
Wood - gone, arguably replaced
That team beat Wakefield 40-0 to win the League Leaders Shield. In almost every case the club has failed to replace those players with men as good or better.
Why is that? Who makes the decision to replace international standard second rowers with players from the Championship? And how can they possibly expect it to work?
And bear in mind that at least three of those players left because of HR mistakes by the club - something of a speciality at the Giants.'"
I completely agree with you about the miss management, My comment was really a generalization, I was trying to make the point that with the right coach we may well have other Cudjo's and such with the right man to spot them and bring them on as Brown did. Powel has done much the same with a bunch of ordinary players at Cas.
But yes i can see where you are going with this, and a few weeks ago i actually pondered whether Mr Davy was bothered about League at all, or whether his interests were far wider.
I really struggle to understand why such an astute businessman as he is would allow his business to drag it's self along in such a pitiful way, On the other hand it's none of my business, I can just choose not to go down but that's what to many have chosen to do already. |
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Odds available on Betfred:
Chris Thorman 5/4
John Kear 9/2
Geoff Toovey 6/1
Rohan Smith 8/1
Brian Noble 8/1
Iestyn Harris 10/1
Neil Henry 12/1
Michael Monaghan 12/1
Justin Morgan 12/1
Richard Marshall 16/1
Paul Anderson 16/1
Andrew Henderson 20/1
Jamahl Lolesi 20/1
Jason Demetriou 25/1
Jim Dymock 25/1
James Webster 25/1
Jon Sharp 25/1
Steve McNamara 33/1
Michael Maguire 40/1
Tony Smith 50/1
Danny Brough 50/1
Eorl Crabtree 66/1
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| Quote Early Bath="Early Bath"Odds available on Betfred:
Chris Thorman 5/4
John Kear 9/2
Geoff Toovey 6/1
Rohan Smith 8/1
Brian Noble 8/1
Iestyn Harris 10/1
Neil Henry 12/1
Michael Monaghan 12/1
Justin Morgan 12/1
Richard Marshall 16/1
Paul Anderson 16/1
Andrew Henderson 20/1
Jamahl Lolesi 20/1
Jason Demetriou 25/1
Jim Dymock 25/1
James Webster 25/1
Jon Sharp 25/1
Steve McNamara 33/1
Michael Maguire 40/1
Tony Smith 50/1
Danny Brough 50/1
Eorl Crabtree 66/1'"
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|  If Chris Thorman manages to get any points at all in the next week he should definitely get to keep the job.
Next to No prep time on the busiest week of the RL calendar, the champions, a trip to Catalan three days later for a bottom table clash, and followed by the LL, all with a massive injury list, and to top it all his Missus has given Birth to a son today. |
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| Quote Steve May="Steve May"Jo, I’m not sure why you think we have the players to compete. The recruitment over the past three or four years has been desperate at times.
Grix - gone, no replacement
McGillvary - improved enormously
Cudjoe - injured but still outstanding
Wardle - gone, no replacement
Murphy - shot as a player, but still here
Brough - shot as a player, but still here
Robinson - gone, no replacement
Crabtree - gone, no replacement
Lunt - gone, no replacement
Kopczak - gone, no replacement
Ferres - gone, no replacement
Chan - gone, no replacement
Lawrence - steady player, hasn’t progressed
Substitutes:
Faiumu - gone, no replacement
Patrick - gone, no replacement
Ta’ai - still got it
Wood - gone, arguably replaced
That team beat Wakefield 40-0 to win the League Leaders Shield. In almost every case the club has failed to replace those players with men as good or better.
Why is that? Who makes the decision to replace international standard second rowers with players from the Championship? And how can they possibly expect it to work?
And bear in mind that at least three of those players left because of HR mistakes by the club - something of a speciality at the Giants.'"
Wow, thats a very good side there. I see Neil Henry is at 12/1 in the betting but I feel he would be another Rick Stone type for you guys. I would love to see you try tempt Jason Demetriou over. Knows the climate so no settling and been very successful thus far every job he has touched. If its given to Thorman I worry for you not that I know much of his coaching ability but the camp would still be the same minus Stone. Think you need a shake up |
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Break the bank and bring in Maguire. He might coach wrestlemania but he gets results and would sort out those that aren't giving 100%.
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Only half the job has been done here as I’ve been saying for last 3 years change in off field management also needed surely Ken can see that
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| Quote bilko1941="bilko1941"Whats more to the point Brearley how come that these contracted players don't have their contracts ripped up after all it is they who are playing the tripe that Stone was sacked for.They most certainly have not been playing professional Rugby League.Try watching the warm up carefully and I will lay money you will be able to see the players who don't want to bother.Why sack Thewlis and Thorman they are not players and I might add Thorman at his best was equal to some of these con artists who are playing now.People ask why we don't attract more spectators having watched this lot this season it speaks for its self I'll bet that Leeds have more speccies Friday than we do!
Strangely enough this has been going on for quite a few years it is nothing new.RL is a hell of a hard game I you go on the field and give less than 100% you will get injured.Does this ring a bell Brearley.'"
never mind the warm ups! what about in the last few games when we have been losing the players take an age to form the scrum??? disgusting, no urgency at all... too cosy down a the giants, knowing they will get their pay check from ken davy, been like this for years now, whole club is rotten from the top needs a culture change |
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| Quote Steve May="Steve May"Jo, I’m not sure why you think we have the players to compete. The recruitment over the past three or four years has been desperate at times.
Grix - gone, no replacement
McGillvary - improved enormously
Cudjoe - injured but still outstanding
Wardle - gone, no replacement
Murphy - shot as a player, but still here
Brough - shot as a player, but still here
Robinson - gone, no replacement
Crabtree - gone, no replacement
Lunt - gone, no replacement
Kopczak - gone, no replacement
Ferres - gone, no replacement
Chan - gone, no replacement
Lawrence - steady player, hasn’t progressed
Substitutes:
Faiumu - gone, no replacement
Patrick - gone, no replacement
Ta’ai - still got it
Wood - gone, arguably replaced
That team beat Wakefield 40-0 to win the League Leaders Shield. In almost every case the club has failed to replace those players with men as good or better.
Why is that? Who makes the decision to replace international standard second rowers with players from the Championship? And how can they possibly expect it to work?
And bear in mind that at least three of those players left because of HR mistakes by the club - something of a speciality at the Giants.'"
yep this is where the big mistakes started to happen , by the HR of the club. paying for it ever since, thewlis is at the centre of this downfall.. remember the jake connor saga not long ago. the mason one. |
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| Quote jools="jools":shock: If Chris Thorman manages to get any points at all in the next week he should definitely get to keep the job.
Next to No prep time on the busiest week of the RL calendar, the champions, a trip to Catalan three days later for a bottom table clash, and followed by the LL, all with a massive injury list, and to top it all his Missus has given Birth to a son today.
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excuses in early for thorman 
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| Quote brearley84="brearley84"yep this is where the big mistakes started to happen , by the HR of the club. paying for it ever since, thewlis is at the centre of this downfall.. remember the jake connor saga not long ago. the mason one.'"
The clubs biggest mistake over that was believing that others involved would act with integrity.
One of our problems is we are too nice. |
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way too nice as a club, can see it in the players
john kear i believe was shocked when he saw the difference in the clubs cultures when coming from sheffield with his lot
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