Apparently he was doing really well for them by the end of the season

You are wasting your time.

Too many of our fans are so used to watching crap from 20 years ago that they will accept pretty much anything that is better than a 30 points to nil drubbing. They are the ones who talk about being "loyal supporters" or the , "singers" etc. Who have a go at anyone who critcises the players or the club.

Others like me are so sick of watching Rubbish from 30 years ago that we cannot stand the frustration of watching us plod on waiting for it all to collapse like a house of cards.


Unfortunately the club seem to have the same attitude as Meast

Catalans have lost Whitehead, Taii, Dureau, Henderson, Garcia and Oldfield.

Richards is well past his best and Myler is average at best. So still not convinced they will be any more effective next season.

Sameold, same old.

People moaning because we finish in the top 3 for the 3rd year running.

People mention other clubs who are bringing through younger players - yet fail to mention ours.

people mention other clubs' quality signings - yet fail to mention ours.

Our players are mentioned because they are getting older - yet fail to mention that every other club has at least 75% of their players getting older.

Yes, it would heve been good to win a trophy, but there are 9 Super League clubs who would love to be where we are. There are 2 bitterly disappointed Championship clubs who would love to be in our shoes. There are ...

I also am bitterly disappointed that we didn't win anything. But to be constantly moaning and spouting negatives, well!

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Spot on Ivor.

So apart from the loyal supporters and the singers,

The others to watch out for are the ones who accuse anyone of being challenging of the current team, club, mangement, etc
as being

Moaners.

If this had been 16 th century England . They would be running around with pitchforks and torches burning moaners and ducking them in ponds until we confess our sins.

Yet they never answer the really pertinent points that some of us raise.

Are we getting better a or are we standing still whilst others around us fluctuate.

Are the crowds improving despite our relative success.

Is the future of the club looking secure.

Who awards contract extensions to players who are not good enough.

What are we doing to move deadwood along.

Name me ONE Youngster who is ready to step up to first team action regularly next season. Simpson and Leeming are not ready.
Connor needs to learn how to move laterally and defend properly.

None of the forwards are ready except for the odd game here and there.

So there we have it None of our youngsters are ready. Maybe in 12, 18 24 months but not now.

What is being done to make it better.

Hinccliffe i rate, He could be a new Brad Drew. Rapira i rate as long as he stays out of the sick bay ala faalogo.

Do i think this will take us on to the next level.

NO.

Am i moaning yes.

In the last few years i have had meetings with Ken, Thewlis and the guy who looks like a walrus.

I said nothing i have not said on here.

If pointing out shortcomings is moaning.

I AM A MOANER

welcome to reality and apologies if i'm not stamping my feet and sulking like a good glory hunter that i should be.
i have no problem with anyone criticising the players or the club, i do it myself if i think it needs to said, i don't accept scapegoating players or finding fault with individuals which seems to be the done thing. the club deserve criticism from time to time, it also deserves praise, i have no problem with that.
but to criticise just about everything just because the club have failed to win silverware is pretty crass too.
yes, we have failed to win a trophy again for the 52nd year in a row but the positive is, we have built the club up from virtually nothing to become challengers, we are finally in a position to be challenging, unlike most of the other clubs who just scrap around mid table, despite being wealthier than we are, having bigger crowds than us and being established in the top flight a lot longer than we have.
without the "loyal supporters" there wouldn't be a fan base to build on, there wouldn't be a club for the bandwagoners to join,there is always a place for new fans but you must never forget the loyal fans who have stuck with it.

spot on!
it just seems no matter what we do some people only see winning silverware as the be all and end all of everything. i guess we are the wrong club for them?

Durham i think you are spot on. many on here keep saying lack of cash for signings then forget the club brought the old police ground last year.giving has beens new contracts means less money for new blood.

I don't know you Ivor and I don't know how long you have watched Huddersfield for , Myself I watched them many times from the early sixties up to about 1990 when I started to watch them on a regular basis. Now I have never seen a class side playing for Fartown, Yes iv'e seen one or two class players from time to time surrounded by many mediocre ones, I was at Wembley in 1962 and at Odsal the week after ( I used to go to all finals when I was a kid ) whoever was playing, and I'm here to tell you that Fartown deserved to win at Odsal despite Wakefield being a far far better side. It happens occasionally and I suspect half the people on this board are dreaming of something like that happening again,

So unless you watched them in the Fifties ( which is quite possible you haven't seen a class side play for Fartown either, I grant you that the side now are as good as we have had and infinitely better than the absolute dross that was served up for so many years, But does that mean we have to accept we can't get better , can't get up with the serial winners.
Does it make us moaners because we want someone on the non playing side to do something other than just keep dipping their bread in the gravy, Rather than the dreamers on here who live in hope that something miraculous will suddenly happen one day and mediocre players ( for one reason or another ) will become great and we shall have the start of our days in the Sun.

It can't possibly have escaped your notice that our crowds are going down, 2,000 down on a couple of years ago, not sure if we didn't get up to over 8,000 at one point, I wonder why when we have been finishing top 4 and actually 1st.
Could it be the stay away fans are fed up with the utter dross that gets printed in the Examiner, telling us all about how we can be better next year for our experience this year, bla bla bla, heard it so many time I could recite it in my sleep, Or maybe they can't be bothered to watch the tripe that is played for 75% of our games, LIKE THIS SEASON .

Whatever the reasons they are not coming, and it seems to me just about everything has been tried other than paying them to turn up, We could of course get some quality players where they are needed, players who can take us up a level, and know how to create good Football, Our season doesn't have to be just about having the best defence.
Still on second thoughts why spend a lot of money on a couple of good players when we can have half a team who can do a job, or won't let us down, for the same money.

So there are the Moaners who want us to get serious from the top man to the lowest cleaners, The ones who think we don't have to be perpetually the nearly team.

There are also the Dreamers who think we are doing ok, the wait and see what happens brigade, who seem to be happy to accept the Jam tomorrow spiel that comes endlessly via the Examiner in the hope that it will be our turn some day.

One thing you are forgetting DG is that the majority of our academy have a quality in abundance, that is confidence.No one will achieve anything in RL without a great belief in oneself.I believe this is the one thing that we as a club fall behind the Wigans,Saints and Leeds,these clubs will play 2,3 or 4 players maybe more if required.To quote Alex Murphy 'If they are good enough they are big enough'.Think back a few years when we played a majority of academy players against a Saints side and almost pulled off an unlikely victory.You ask to name any player in the academy who is good enough I say any one of them.

Is this the same man who was saying he would rather win than be entertained.