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| Had opportunities to halt the tackle, carried on anyway. Deserves everything he gets.
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| ferres is not a dirty player, even nathan brown said this and he brought him to the giants
he does have a tackling technique though which always threatens to end up like this, not the first time ive seen him almost spear players..needs to work on this
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| Quote: brearley84 "ferres is not a dirty player, even nathan brown said this and he brought him to the giants
he does have a tackling technique though which always threatens to end up like this, not the first time ive seen him almost spear players..needs to work on this'"
Anderson brought him.
A very dangerous and reckless tackle but I'm not convinced it was malicious. I'm very glad Lomax came away unscathed, will be and should be a four match ban probably more in my opinion.
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| Quote: Ginger_Giant "Anderson brought him.
A very dangerous and reckless tackle but I'm not convinced it was malicious. I'm very glad Lomax came away unscathed, will be and should be a four match ban probably more in my opinion.'"
sorry yes anderson did after brown got the sack.
what about robinson being tackled in the air in the first half by lomax, if robinson had landed on his head would lomax of got a red card?
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| Quote: brearley84 "sorry yes anderson did after brown got the sack.
what about robinson being tackled in the air in the first half by lomax, if robinson had landed on his head would lomax of got a red card?'"
Who can say? Lomax went in to challenge for the ball, he wasn't going to win it but didn't pull fully out like he probably should have done - it was in a split second though.
The problem with the Ferres tackle is that he had time to try control the tackle after it went wrong, he could have just conceded the penalty and got Lomax down safely; he didn't and that cost him and the team dearly.
In my mind we wouldn't even be discussing drop goals if Ferres had lowered Lomax carefully.
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| yep and in the build up to this saints should not of even had the ball - wardle being held down by the collar and unable to get up by lomax - penalty to saints.
you could hear brough shouting to bentham..why is it we never get anything when its done to us?!?!
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| I have seen the incident on TV a few times now.
Lomax is a bit like Grix he likes to try and struggle to evade defenders in my opinion with him doing that and Ferres trying to wrestle him to the ground I don't think it was actually that bad but probably a dismissal.
I would say 1-2 games is fair.
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| Quote: Fartown84 "I have seen the incident on TV a few times now.
Lomax is a bit like Grix he likes to try and struggle to evade defenders in my opinion with him doing that and Ferres trying to wrestle him to the ground I don't think it was actually that bad but probably a dismissal.
I would say 1-2 games is fair.'"
I'm sorry but trolling or not you sound like a sick individual. Absolutely disgusting view of it.
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| Quote: LFC Saint "I'm sorry but trolling or not you sound like a sick individual. Absolutely disgusting view of it.'"
Grow up. Shock horror someone has a different view.
As often happens the offenders teams supporters generally don't think it was that bad and he's not that kind of player and the offended against think it's intentional and disgraceful and are calling for the aggressors head.
Last month it would have been on report and 1 or 2 matches. Recent events have changed perspective and it was rightly a red card. I would expect an example to be made with 5+ matches which IMO is excessive. Like it or not Lomax contributed to where he ended up. It was Ferres' fault and his responsibility to ensure the tackle is safe but Lomax still contributed.
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| I don't think what Brett did was premeditated or intentional. I think it was very poor technique and careless, which is still serious. It was a deserved Red Card and because of the injury it could of caused he'll get a minimum 3 match ban, probably 5. Brett had responsibility for Lomax's safety and in light of the incident Down Under it's inevitable he'll get longer than he would of done a fortnight ago. I have no issue with that, I only ask that there is consistancy of punishment over future similar incidents.
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "Like it or not Lomax contributed to where he ended up. It was Ferres' fault and his responsibility to ensure the tackle is safe but Lomax still contributed.'"
The only way Lomax contributed to being where he ended up was by being on the rugby pitch. All the rest was entirely and completely the fault of Ferres and all those Hudds fans blaming Bentham for not awarding a drop goal which he (and one TV angle) didn't consider to be a drop goal, should look to Ferres because until Ferres was sent off, Hudds were well ahead and had that game in the bag.
Looking at the punishments available to Ferres, I reckon it would come under dangerous throw rather than spear. I didn't get the impression either when at the game or when watching it back that Ferres drove Lomax's head into the ground. I got the impression he spun him over and that would tie in with the dangerous throw grade.
As for Lomax getting Robinson in the air: he did. He let go very quickly also and apologised to Robinson. A penalty was rightly awarded to Huddersfield.
Which Huddersfield player was it who tackled Makinson in the air? Was it McGilveray? I think so but I'm not totally sure. Anyway, he also conceded a penalty. Penalty sufficient on both occasions.
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "Lomax contributed to where he ended up. '"
It is only because I can't be bothered getting banned and setting up a new profile on here that I'm not telling you exactly what I think of you after reading that. Disgraceful.
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| Quote: brearley84 "yep and in the build up to this saints should not of even had the ball - wardle being held down by the collar and unable to get up by lomax - penalty to saints.
And one of your try's was forward and the other wasn't conclusive to say was over the line so maybe both teams feel hard done by.
You need to accept it mate. Mistake or no mistake it's come now and move on.
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| 4-5 i reckon, because of the Mckinnon incident he will be made an example of now, but i can guarantee when that happens to one of our players in the next couple of weeks as it will do we wont see a card of any colour !!
Brett isn't that kind of bloke - there is no way he would have intended to hurt Lomax and it wasn't malicious just careless - silly boy but he will have known that the minute he did it.
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| I am not condoning the Ferres tackle in anyway and he desrved to be sent off and to receive whatever ban is appropriate for such a tackle.
I am sure though it was more bad technique than deliberate as Ferres is not a and never has been a dirty player.
What i cannot understand is the huge overeaction of some because of a tragic incident in Australia that while tragic was more down to bad luck then any intention on the tacklers behalf. Calling for Ferres to receive a record ban is wrong and i have seen tackles over the years that have been equally as bad. 3-4 games would still send out a very strong message that this type of tackle is not acceptable.
If going forward the RFL want to look at this type of tackle and change the length of ban associated with it i have no problem. However surely they have to follow the very clealry set guidelines in place as to how long he gets bans. They cannot simply add to the ban without changing the grading first. Or maybe thay can because the RFL have nver been consistant on disciplinary matters.
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