Jo, I’m not sure why you think we have the players to compete. The recruitment over the past three or four years has been desperate at times.

Grix - gone, no replacement
McGillvary - improved enormously
Cudjoe - injured but still outstanding
Wardle - gone, no replacement
Murphy - shot as a player, but still here
Brough - shot as a player, but still here
Robinson - gone, no replacement
Crabtree - gone, no replacement
Lunt - gone, no replacement
Kopczak - gone, no replacement
Ferres - gone, no replacement
Chan - gone, no replacement
Lawrence - steady player, hasn’t progressed

Substitutes:
Faiumu - gone, no replacement
Patrick - gone, no replacement
Ta’ai - still got it
Wood - gone, arguably replaced

That team beat Wakefield 40-0 to win the League Leaders Shield. In almost every case the club has failed to replace those players with men as good or better.

Why is that? Who makes the decision to replace international standard second rowers with players from the Championship? And how can they possibly expect it to work?

And bear in mind that at least three of those players left because of HR mistakes by the club - something of a speciality at the Giants.

They can do it because their game is run by professional people who know how to market the game, they have all the right people in all the right places, Journalists who are ex players and give them lots of coverage, Commentators who talk serious stuff ( rather than the circus we get on sky S League ) the modern day Eddie Waring show )

Since Union went "openly Pro" 20 / 25 years ? it has gone further forward than Rugby league in over 100 years, Despite League being Faster and harder Union is taking huge strides forward, and gets double or treble the sky money we do, It may take off in Canada / USA but thats not much good to us except as a tv sport.

“They can do it because their game is run by professional people”

Nailed it. RL is run by second hand car salesmen and carpet showroom owners.

I completely agree with you about the miss management, My comment was really a generalization, I was trying to make the point that with the right coach we may well have other Cudjo's and such with the right man to spot them and bring them on as Brown did. Powel has done much the same with a bunch of ordinary players at Cas.
But yes i can see where you are going with this, and a few weeks ago i actually pondered whether Mr Davy was bothered about League at all, or whether his interests were far wider.
I really struggle to understand why such an astute businessman as he is would allow his business to drag it's self along in such a pitiful way, On the other hand it's none of my business, I can just choose not to go down but that's what to many have chosen to do already.

Odds available on Betfred:
Chris Thorman 5/4
John Kear 9/2
Geoff Toovey 6/1
Rohan Smith 8/1
Brian Noble 8/1
Iestyn Harris 10/1
Neil Henry 12/1
Michael Monaghan 12/1
Justin Morgan 12/1
Richard Marshall 16/1
Paul Anderson 16/1
Andrew Henderson 20/1
Jamahl Lolesi 20/1
Jason Demetriou 25/1
Jim Dymock 25/1
James Webster 25/1
Jon Sharp 25/1
Steve McNamara 33/1
Michael Maguire 40/1
Tony Smith 50/1
Danny Brough 50/1
Eorl Crabtree 66/1

The one with the nearest temperament to Alex Murphy.

If Chris Thorman manages to get any points at all in the next week he should definitely get to keep the job.
Next to No prep time on the busiest week of the RL calendar, the champions, a trip to Catalan three days later for a bottom table clash, and followed by the LL, all with a massive injury list, and to top it all his Missus has given Birth to a son today.

Wow, thats a very good side there. I see Neil Henry is at 12/1 in the betting but I feel he would be another Rick Stone type for you guys. I would love to see you try tempt Jason Demetriou over. Knows the climate so no settling and been very successful thus far every job he has touched. If its given to Thorman I worry for you not that I know much of his coaching ability but the camp would still be the same minus Stone. Think you need a shake up

Break the bank and bring in Maguire. He might coach wrestlemania but he gets results and would sort out those that aren't giving 100%.

Only half the job has been done here as I’ve been saying for last 3 years change in off field management also needed surely Ken can see that

never mind the warm ups! what about in the last few games when we have been losing the players take an age to form the scrum??? disgusting, no urgency at all... too cosy down a the giants, knowing they will get their pay check from ken davy, been like this for years now, whole club is rotten from the top needs a culture change

yep this is where the big mistakes started to happen , by the HR of the club. paying for it ever since, thewlis is at the centre of this downfall.. remember the jake connor saga not long ago. the mason one.