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| Quote no fear="no fear"Since WWII, of the trophies that really matter, we have won the Challenge Cup in 1953, the Championship in 1962 and the [icoup de grâce[/i - the 1993 European Cup - under the Conservatives and the League Leaders Shield in 2013 under the Coalition. The only major trophy - unless we are including the 2002 Buddies Cup - we have won under Labour in that time is the 1949 Championship.
So for me the choice is obvious. Vote Fartown. Vote Tory.'"
How do you define an idiot.
Someone who quotes Ronald Reagan and thinks that makes some sort of convincing arguement
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| Quote no fear="no fear"Since WWII, of the trophies that really matter, we have won the Challenge Cup in 1953, the Championship in 1962 and the [icoup de grâce[/i - the 1993 European Cup - under the Conservatives and the League Leaders Shield in 2013 under the Coalition. The only major trophy - unless we are including the 2002 Buddies Cup - we have won under Labour in that time is the 1949 Championship.
So for me the choice is obvious. Vote Fartown. Vote Tory.'"
Ah but the most important win as far as I am concerned more recently is the divisional one Premiership title in 1997. Labour was in power.
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Quote Durham Giant="no fear"Since WWII, of the trophies that really matter, we have won the Challenge Cup in 1953, the Championship in 1962 and the coup de grâce - the 1993 European Cup - under the Conservatives and the League Leaders Shield in 2013 under the Coalition. The only major trophy - unless we are including the 2002 Buddies Cup - we have won under Labour in that time is the 1949 Championship.
So for me the choice is obvious. Vote Fartown. Vote Tory.'"
How do you define an idiot.
Someone who quotes Ronald Reagan and thinks that makes some sort of convincing arguement
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Is that how you define an 'idiot', Durham Giant?
I wonder whether an 'idiot' would be able to use grammar or Key Stage One level punctuation correctly. Quoting a post on here is perhaps a little trickier but I'm sure most 'idiots' would be able to do it. And who but an 'idiot' would brazenly suggest that the mere act of quoting Reagan, or anyone else for that matter, implies that the quoter believes it to be a 'convincing arguement [sic'?
I have had the Reagan quote as my signature for approximately a decade. It didn't seem to bother you overtly when you were taking a free ticket from me. And I thought it was those on the right who put profit before principles.
I must say, I didn't expect I'd have to add the caveat that my post was intended as light-hearted humour.
No hard feelings, and a belated Happy May Day!

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| Quote jools="jools"Ah but the most important win as far as I am concerned more recently is the divisional one Premiership title in 1997. Labour was in power.'"
A fair point Jools, but may I respectfully point out that the season began in January, so it could be argued that the ground work was done when the Tories were in power... 
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| Quote no fear="no fear"A fair point Jools, but may I respectfully point out that the season began in January, so it could be argued that the ground work was done when the Tories were in power...
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You can suggest it but given that hull beat us twice in the league that season, and labour won their landslide victory in May, I respectfully beg to differ....
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| Quote adamhuddsgiant="adamhuddsgiant"I will second that! I only have 15 years to go on when I was aware of what was going on in politicos the start labour was in and things went wrong, conservatives in and things appear to be getting better?'"
yes we are around the same age , conservatives seem to have got the economy back on track, albeit slowly, to go back to Labour would be a big risk after the mess they made last time they were in.
its going to be very close, milliband may very well be the next prime minister.
i didnt like nigel farage at first but after listening to him he does actually talk some sense and says what alot of the country thinks... but they seem to have only one thing in their manifesto and thats about immigration which isnt enough.
people who say that these immigrants pick the potatoes out of the field that we eat... what happened 10, 15 years ago even longer, did they just stay in the ground and farming stop?! no.
Anyway two things are probably best not discussed on a forum... religion and politics as its just causes endless arguments.
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| I am 71 now and lived through many changes of government. The thing that stands out most over that time is that every time the Labour party have been in government, they have always and I mean always left the finances of the country in absolute chaos and practically bankrupt.
The country can`t keep borrowing money willy nilly to fund benefits which is one of the main drains on our finances.
The city will be jittery if Labour get in and shares will drop like a stone which sadly reflects on jobs and the economy.
I would personally hope that UKIP does well and forms a coalition with the Conservatives.
But if we vote Conservative we can keep Milliband out who will only be able to govern with the help of the SNP rabble north of the border, and the SNP would certainly be wagging the Milliband dog.
Don`t let the country be dragged back down again, things are slowly improving. Don`t throw it away with Labour vote.
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That bunch of bigots! The day that happens I'm out of the country. .... Well I may as well seeing as they will be turfing my family out anyway!
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| Always good to see when people have a sound knowledge of all the facts. The country's borrowing has escalated in the last 5 years.
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| Quote Giantscorpio="Giantscorpio"I am 71 now and lived through many changes of government. The thing that stands out most over that time is that every time the Labour party have been in government, they have always and I mean always left the finances of the country in absolute chaos and practically bankrupt.
The country can`t keep borrowing money willy nilly to fund benefits which is one of the main drains on our finances.
The city will be jittery if Labour get in and shares will drop like a stone which sadly reflects on jobs and the economy.
I would personally hope that UKIP does well and forms a coalition with the Conservatives.
But if we vote Conservative we can keep Milliband out who will only be able to govern with the help of the SNP rabble north of the border, and the SNP would certainly be wagging the Milliband dog.
Don`t let the country be dragged back down again, things are slowly improving. Don`t throw it away with Labour vote.'"
Where were you in the Thatcher years, she did a great job and we're still paying for it
Her and her cronies destroyed the Coal and Steel Industry and blamed it all on the workforce and the Unions, only now are we learning the truth of the long list of lies and deciept she created to achieve this. Once she'd achieved this she declared war on the rest of the workforce and British Industry duly went down the drain. She sold off all our utilities for a fraction of their worth, another thing we're paying heavily for now, and squandered the money rather than re-invest in British Industry. The glorious "Thatcher years" started the great North/South divide and that clown Cameron is happy following his heroines disasterous policies. The only tail wagging is/was done by Thatcher/Cameron looking after their posh, millionaire mates
As for UKIP , just a bunch of Hoorah Henry racist bigots
As for the City getting the "Jitters" if Labour returns, despite what Cameron and the Tory press would like you to believe they got us into this mess in the first place
For Cameron "the workers friend"  and his party of rich out of touch Eton educated buffoons read "Thatcher returns" Don't know about you but I'm not too keen on this Tory ideal of an "I'm alright Jack" society 
The Welfare “Reform” Act 2012 marked the continuation of a wholesale dismantling of the welfare state. Cameron has taken up where Thatcher left off. It’s utterly callous and it also steals money from people in work. The unemployed are blamed for unemployment, at a time when Cameron’s Government created a double-dip recession. Thatcher also blamed the unemployed for the unemployment that her policy choices created, but not as viciously as Cameron’s administration has. Living standards are being driven down deliberately while tax cuts are gifted to the rich. Education is slowly being privatised, any remaining pretence of meritocratic principles has been well and truly bludgeoned and our gifted young people are being priced out of university. Local democracy is shackled, Councils (and subsequently, public services,) are turned into a queue of hostages for Eric Pickles’ cuts  All this started with Thatcher, who was certainly behind radical proposals to end free healthcare and schooling in Britain. We know this from the Central Policy Review Staff (CPRS) Report, that was encouraged and commissioned by Thatcher and Howe in 1982, which shows a radical, politically toxic plan to dismantle the welfare state, to introduce education vouchers, ending the state funding of higher education, to freeze welfare benefits and to introduce an insurance-based health service, ending free health care provision of the NHS. One of the architects of the report was Lord Wasserman, he is now one of Cameron’s advisors  The Government asserts that its welfare “reform” strategy is aimed at breaking the cycle of “worklessness” and dependency on the welfare system in the UK’s poorest families. There’s no such thing as “worklessness”, it’s simply a blame apportioning word, made up by the Tories to hide the fact that they have destroyed the employment market, as they always do. The “reforms” (cuts) consist of 39 individual changes to welfare payments, eligibility, sanctions and timescales for payment and are intended to save the exchequer around £18 billion. How remarkable that the Department of Work and Pensions claim that such cuts to welfare spending will reduce poverty  George Osborne’s “plan A” isn’t about economics: it amounts to little more than a rehashed Thatcherite ideological agenda of stripping away public services and welfare, deregulation and labour market “flexibility”, and an assault on the rights of employees, and Labour’s historic equality legislation. The Tory demand for a “nighchman state” is both ill-conceived and completely irrelevant to Britain’s economic circumstances. It’s a complete abdication of government responsibility, democratic obligations and duty towards its citizens. The Coalition have borrowed more in 4 years than labour did in 13 and have NOTHING to show for it except a handful of wealthier millionaires. And the return of absolute poverty. We know that austerity was intentionally imposed by the Coalition, using a feigned panic over the budget deficit to front an opportunistic vulture capitalist approach to stripping our public assets. With the Coalition in power for 4 years, the deficit has apparently receded in importance
[uTories, the more things change, the more they stay the same.[/u
1 Million people using food banks
Debt higher than under Labour
Hundreds of thousands on Zero hour contracts
3.5 million children living in poverty
Royal Mail "sell off" cost taxpayers £1billion
£3 billiontax cut for the top one percent of earners
Well David, your darling "Maggie" would be proud of you, we're well on the way to your promised land of "Victorian values" perhaps he and his cronies can re-open the workhouses for you
I know who I WON'T be voting for 
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Her and her cronies destroyed the Coal and Steel Industry and blamed it all on the workforce and the Unions, only now are we learning the truth of the long list of lies and deciept she created to achieve this. Once she'd achieved this she declared war on the rest of the workforce and British Industry duly went down the drain. She sold off all our utilities for a fraction of their worth, another thing we're paying heavily for now, and squandered the money rather than re-invest in British Industry. The glorious "Thatcher years" started the great North/South divide and that clown Cameron is happy following his heroines disasterous policies. The only tail wagging is/was done by Thatcher/Cameron looking after their posh, millionaire mates
As for UKIP , just a bunch of Hoorah Henry racist bigots
As for the City getting the "Jitters" if Labour returns, despite what Cameron and the Tory press would like you to believe they got us into this mess in the first place
For Cameron "the workers friend"
and his party of rich out of touch Eton educated buffoons read "Thatcher returns" Don't know about you but I'm not too keen on this Tory ideal of an "I'm alright Jack" society

The Welfare “Reform” Act 2012 marked the continuation of a wholesale dismantling of the welfare state. Cameron has taken up where Thatcher left off. It’s utterly callous and it also steals money from people in work. The unemployed are blamed for unemployment, at a time when Cameron’s Government created a double-dip recession. Thatcher also blamed the unemployed for the unemployment that her policy choices created, but not as viciously as Cameron’s administration has. Living standards are being driven down deliberately while tax cuts are gifted to the rich. Education is slowly being privatised, any remaining pretence of meritocratic principles has been well and truly bludgeoned and our gifted young people are being priced out of university. Local democracy is shackled, Councils (and subsequently, public services,) are turned into a queue of hostages for Eric Pickles’ cuts
All this started with Thatcher, who was certainly behind radical proposals to end free healthcare and schooling in Britain. We know this from the Central Policy Review Staff (CPRS) Report, that was encouraged and commissioned by Thatcher and Howe in 1982, which shows a radical, politically toxic plan to dismantle the welfare state, to introduce education vouchers, ending the state funding of higher education, to freeze welfare benefits and to introduce an insurance-based health service, ending free health care provision of the NHS. One of the architects of the report was Lord Wasserman, he is now one of Cameron’s advisors
The Government asserts that its welfare “reform” strategy is aimed at breaking the cycle of “worklessness” and dependency on the welfare system in the UK’s poorest families. There’s no such thing as “worklessness”, it’s simply a blame apportioning word, made up by the Tories to hide the fact that they have destroyed the employment market, as they always do. The “reforms” (cuts) consist of 39 individual changes to welfare payments, eligibility, sanctions and timescales for payment and are intended to save the exchequer around £18 billion. How remarkable that the Department of Work and Pensions claim that such cuts to welfare spending will reduce poverty
George Osborne’s “plan A” isn’t about economics: it amounts to little more than a rehashed Thatcherite ideological agenda of stripping away public services and welfare, deregulation and labour market “flexibility”, and an assault on the rights of employees, and Labour’s historic equality legislation. The Tory demand for a “nighchman state” is both ill-conceived and completely irrelevant to Britain’s economic circumstances. It’s a complete abdication of government responsibility, democratic obligations and duty towards its citizens. The Coalition have borrowed more in 4 years than labour did in 13 and have NOTHING to show for it except a handful of wealthier millionaires. And the return of absolute poverty. We know that austerity was intentionally imposed by the Coalition, using a feigned panic over the budget deficit to front an opportunistic vulture capitalist approach to stripping our public assets. With the Coalition in power for 4 years, the deficit has apparently receded in importance

[uTories, the more things change, the more they stay the same.[/u
1 Million people using food banks
Debt higher than under Labour
Hundreds of thousands on Zero hour contracts
3.5 million children living in poverty
Royal Mail "sell off" cost taxpayers £1billion
£3 billiontax cut for the top one percent of earners
Well David, your darling "Maggie" would be proud of you, we're well on the way to your promised land of "Victorian values" perhaps he and his cronies can re-open the workhouses for you
I know who I WON'T be voting for
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WOW!!
Unfortunately the truth gets buried by the mostly Tory press - and 1825 days of the continual Tory one-liner "Labour got us into this mess". People might like to read how the [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32549892?SThisFB&fb_ref=DefaultBBC explained the 'mess'[/url.
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| Quote ShelleyGiant="ShelleyGiant":1r9nt6gzWhere were you in the Thatcher years, she did a great job and we're still paying for it
Her and her cronies destroyed the Coal and Steel Industry and blamed it all on the workforce and the Unions, only now are we learning the truth of the long list of lies and deciept she created to achieve this. Once she'd achieved this she declared war on the rest of the workforce and British Industry duly went down the drain. She sold off all our utilities for a fraction of their worth, another thing we're paying heavily for now, and squandered the money rather than re-invest in British Industry. The glorious "Thatcher years" started the great North/South divide and that clown Cameron is happy following his heroines disasterous policies. The only tail wagging is/was done by Thatcher/Cameron looking after their posh, millionaire mates
As for UKIP , just a bunch of Hoorah Henry racist bigots
As for the City getting the "Jitters" if Labour returns, despite what Cameron and the Tory press would like you to believe they got us into this mess in the first place
For Cameron "the workers friend"
and his party of rich out of touch Eton educated buffoons read "Thatcher returns" Don't know about you but I'm not too keen on this Tory ideal of an "I'm alright Jack" society

The Welfare “Reform” Act 2012 marked the continuation of a wholesale dismantling of the welfare state. Cameron has taken up where Thatcher left off. It’s utterly callous and it also steals money from people in work. The unemployed are blamed for unemployment, at a time when Cameron’s Government created a double-dip recession. Thatcher also blamed the unemployed for the unemployment that her policy choices created, but not as viciously as Cameron’s administration has. Living standards are being driven down deliberately while tax cuts are gifted to the rich. Education is slowly being privatised, any remaining pretence of meritocratic principles has been well and truly bludgeoned and our gifted young people are being priced out of university. Local democracy is shackled, Councils (and subsequently, public services,) are turned into a queue of hostages for Eric Pickles’ cuts
All this started with Thatcher, who was certainly behind radical proposals to end free healthcare and schooling in Britain. We know this from the Central Policy Review Staff (CPRS) Report, that was encouraged and commissioned by Thatcher and Howe in 1982, which shows a radical, politically toxic plan to dismantle the welfare state, to introduce education vouchers, ending the state funding of higher education, to freeze welfare benefits and to introduce an insurance-based health service, ending free health care provision of the NHS. One of the architects of the report was Lord Wasserman, he is now one of Cameron’s advisors
The Government asserts that its welfare “reform” strategy is aimed at breaking the cycle of “worklessness” and dependency on the welfare system in the UK’s poorest families. There’s no such thing as “worklessness”, it’s simply a blame apportioning word, made up by the Tories to hide the fact that they have destroyed the employment market, as they always do. The “reforms” (cuts) consist of 39 individual changes to welfare payments, eligibility, sanctions and timescales for payment and are intended to save the exchequer around £18 billion. How remarkable that the Department of Work and Pensions claim that such cuts to welfare spending will reduce poverty
George Osborne’s “plan A” isn’t about economics: it amounts to little more than a rehashed Thatcherite ideological agenda of stripping away public services and welfare, deregulation and labour market “flexibility”, and an assault on the rights of employees, and Labour’s historic equality legislation. The Tory demand for a “nighchman state” is both ill-conceived and completely irrelevant to Britain’s economic circumstances. It’s a complete abdication of government responsibility, democratic obligations and duty towards its citizens. The Coalition have borrowed more in 4 years than labour did in 13 and have NOTHING to show for it except a handful of wealthier millionaires. And the return of absolute poverty. We know that austerity was intentionally imposed by the Coalition, using a feigned panic over the budget deficit to front an opportunistic vulture capitalist approach to stripping our public assets. With the Coalition in power for 4 years, the deficit has apparently receded in importance

:1r9nt6gz[u:1r9nt6gzTories, the more things change, the more they stay the same.[/u:1r9nt6gz:1r9nt6gz
:1r9nt6gz1 Million people using food banks
Many people who use the food banks use them several times so the actual figure is no where near 1 million, also the best way to deal with poverty is to get people in work, something labour wont do unless its in the public sector, they never do anything for private enterprise.
Debt higher than under Labour
If Brown, Balls, Darling and co had not left a recurring deficit north of £160bn we would not have had the massive increase in debt and any comparison with the situation during the 13 years of terror is bogus.
:1r9nt6gzHundreds of thousands on Zero hour contracts
:1r9nt6gzThere are about actually 2% on zero contracts, what about the hundreds of thousands of jobs created in the private sector during the last few years? even though many are low paid they are better than no job at all.
Plus what about the number of labour councils who employ zero hour contract workers, even Edd Balls has his own staff on zero hour contracts, what a bunch of hypocrites.
Uncontrolled Immigration under labour also pushed wages down in the Uk.
:1r9nt6gz3.5 million children living in poverty
:1r9nt6gzI worked in India a few years ago so, until you have been there or somewhere similar you have no idea what poverty is.
:1r9nt6gzRoyal Mail "sell off" cost taxpayers £1billion
:1r9nt6gzTrue but it was business secretary who presided over that and he was a Lib dem:1r9nt6gz
£3 billion tax cut for the top one per cent of earners
:1r9nt6gzTop 25% of earners in the Uk pay 75% of ALL income tax while half of the country contributes less than 10%
:1r9nt6gzWell David, your darling "Maggie" would be proud of you, we're well on the way to your promised land of "Victorian values" perhaps he and his cronies can re-open the workhouses for you
:1r9nt6gzI know who I WON'T be voting for:1r9nt6gz
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