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| It always makes me laugh when statemnts are made saying the Giants are afraid to play youngsters. I in the last few seasons they have introduced the likes of Cudjoe,Larence,Mcgillivary,Wardle,Patrick,Eden and Fairbank to the side which is hardly the sign of a club unwilling to blood youngsters.
Also can you name any youngster the club has released in the last five years that has made it to a decent level at another super league club.This suggests every youngster they have released has not been good enough.
As for stand off's i am not aware of any good ones coming thorugh the ranks that may be ready for the first team and i am sure Paul Anderson would be delighted if he could find one without dipping into the transfer market.
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| if a fee is to be paid then we can use abit of walkers fee to off set it maybe..
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| Stella the players I'm thinking about are in particular Sarsfield and Molloy(both international juniors) ,I can think of only one halfback Tom Hemingway(obviously left the Giants I believe now playing with Dewsbury,not 100% sure and Kyle Wood,did we get him from Sheffield? .I did hear last season that Balloo would be giving some of the younger players a chance.There is a general shortage in rugby league of good young half backs (mainly 6s) and centres who are leaving RL due to lack of opportunities which may be in part the importing of overseas players.We may have a couple in our junior sides whether they get a chance is anyones guess.Players mature at different ages a player may be told he is not being kept on the books at 17 may be be a different proposition two years later, there are quite a few playing in the different leagues up and down the country and in RU teams I see these regularly.I travel up and down watching RL and occasionly RU and it isn't difficult spotting a talented possibly RL trained player.
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| Molloy did spend a lot of last season injured I think-
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| molloy did his knee, out for the season
good prospect...hope he has a good season this time round
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| Quote jammle="jammle"I totally agree, Martin Shuttleworth (Koppy's agent i think) is the one who will get his big cut for orchestrating his clients move away, where he would get nothing if Koppy stayed at Bfd.
Agents are a cancer within the game.'"
Same agent that landed you Brough even though still under contract. Wouldn't trust this guy as far as i could throw Crabtree. As far as i see it the agent initiated the move for Koppy before he was eligible to quit thus Bradford wanting a fee (even though i think they are entitiled to jack at moment). Wonder what will happen if you lot decide to walk away and Craig doesn't want to play for Bulls. The way i see it is if he this were to happen it would be a different case for any other club as they have not approached him when under contract and could sign him without any problems that you have had.
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| Quote Baron Greenback="Baron Greenback"It's a tricky one isn't it. If, as you say, the agent approached the club, how could Huddersfield realistically be punished for being approached?'"
By listening to said approach.
Kopczak's legal standpoint is based on the Ranger's players being allowed to leave for free when that club went belly up. However, their argument was that their careers and livelihoods would be damaged because Rangers would be playing in the Scottish 3rd division, would have no access to european and by extension international football and would have to take a pay cut because of this drop in playing level.
None of that applies to Kopczak. He can refuse the TUPE, but as OK Bulls bought the club and if that includes the player registrations then they are entitled to ask for a fee to release that registration.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Quote roofaldo2="Baron Greenback"It's a tricky one isn't it. If, as you say, the agent approached the club, how could Huddersfield realistically be punished for being approached?'"
By listening to said approach.
Kopczak's legal standpoint is based on the Ranger's players being allowed to leave for free when that club went belly up. However, their argument was that their careers and livelihoods would be damaged because Rangers would be playing in the Scottish 3rd division, would have no access to european and by extension international football and would have to take a pay cut because of this drop in playing level.
None of that applies to Kopczak. He can refuse the TUPE, but as OK Bulls bought the club and if that includes the player registrations then they are entitled to ask for a fee to release that registration.'"
You are of course aware that Rangers players have played international football this season? You will also be aware that there was no "case" with regard to player registrations but the advice the SFA received was that a new club could not retain the registrations, that is of course under Scots Law and has not been tested in court. You are citing a reason that you believe means a precedent ,which actually is not a precedent, doesn't apply. That is of course a nonsense.
Lets watch and see what happens in the next few days.
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| One further, significant point. If hypothetically Huddersfield decided to sell Luke Robinson to London, Luke may not want to go to London, for whatever reason. If Luke does not want to move to London then he cannot be forced to agree to change Employers. The RFL cannot register Luke with London without his agreement, whatever Huddersfield & London wish.
Now reconsider that but change Huddersfield to Old Bradford Bulls, London to OK Bulls and Luke Robinson to Craig Kopczak. What is the difference?
Huddersfield Giants have been accused of enticing CK to break his contract, how do you break a contract that doesn't exist? CK has never had a contract with OK Bulls so how can a third party (OK Bulls) be entitled to interfere with his career?
As I said before, lets watch and see what happens.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"By listening to said approach.
Kopczak's legal standpoint is based on the Ranger's players being allowed to leave for free when that club went belly up. However, their argument was that their careers and livelihoods would be damaged because Rangers would be playing in the Scottish 3rd division, would have no access to european and by extension international football and would have to take a pay cut because of this drop in playing level.
None of that applies to Kopczak. He can refuse the TUPE, but as OK Bulls bought the club and if that includes the player registrations then they are entitled to ask for a fee to release that registration.'"
Although the Bulls were not relegated I think the same argument might be utilised and it might stand up once barristers got involved. I think the RFL will do anything they can to make it go away.
Personally I would prefer to for their to be no flies on the club and I wouldn't be upset if he didn't sign, but I do find the way that certain individuals at the Bradford club have acted in this affair disappointing and it makes me more inclined to think, "Meh". They turned on Huddersfield when their focus should have been on an agent. He misled his player and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he misled Thewlis, or whoever else.
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