agree with fa'alogo he hasn't really hit the ground running with us yet what with injuries etc but give the guy time.
and it's true abou the ground at cas, cant really fault any player for losing the ball under those lights, i suspect a few on here have never been to any ground at night never mind castleford

At last some common sense and perspective

It was just one of those games.

Cas scored off two kicks and a dodgy VR decision. They were still however the best team. The tackling effort they put in was immense.

I can't believe that anyone on this thread is having a go at Grix. He seems to be improving all the time and seems to be a more than capable full back.

I'm not a big Hodgson fan with the ball in hand but defensively and under the high ball he is usually pretty good.

The pack never really got going and I would like to see Larne Patrick replace Horne. As for O'Donnell he needs time but needs to cut out the chicken wing type tackles that he seems to do more often than I would like.

The one thing that really appalled me was the diferential penalty on the scrum. that was very, very poor and turned a rare attacking opportunity into a defensive one.


All the above said if Browny had held that pass early in the second half I think Giants would have won (probably undeservedly).

Bring on Hull !

After the seasons me Bo and SG have been watching --you get used to it !!

You young-uns will in time! Wink

We read too many papers all week !

The number of times we have a cracking result --we follow it up with a lack lustre /"we only have to turn up " display
Why?--who knows??

Ivor says he`d rather beat Wires than Cas (yes he then says hed rather beat both) and THATS bottom line!

To be up at the top you have to!

Points dropped against "mid table/ lower teams" are the same - 2

Cas beat Wakey at Cardiff -- but they ran out and played us in the same conditions for both teams like a cup tie

That was the main difference last night --we were Flat -and more flat
We looked lead legged
We lacked shape at play the balls
We had little or NO enthusiasm - bar Grix and McGillvary

I`m not picking on players for off games --it was a lack lustre performance virtually across the park and
unless we realise that its a long season and EACH and EVERY match is a vital win and go for it --we wont be there or thereabouts SIMPLES!

Lets just hope its a one off blip --and get back on track - theres some top team battles approaching and that sort of
approach has to go out the window !

Two points in my mind --not sure that the captaincy sits well on Brownys shoulders - my feelings when the topic was raised
Not that hes making wrong decisions -- but may be the responsbility - he seems less creative -just my opinion

Similarly - despite his team mates having nternational experience - Larne seems to be the only true forward who runs at the gap and to the side of his opponent
Eorl / Failogo / ODonnell/ Griff seem to be intent on running THROUGH or OVER the tackler
Even if super fit and conditioned that takes it out of the ball carrier just as much as the defender

A great forward once said that defence is the best form of attack !
Keep knocking em down --as even getting up time and time againt takes the steam and enthusasm out of you!

End of day - without singling anyone out - wrong attitude to Cas - we underestimated them and their coach
We were out-thought out- played, and they were simply up for the fight --and well done to them!

We were still on the bus as a team - and it just wont do !
and this --oh it only early days , theres a long way to go doesnt gel with me

2 from Cas away -- and a slip against your top rivals ISNT quite so critical !
Cmon lads ---CONSISTENCY please !

Finally -- well done Cas for showing that team spirit, guts, and a willing to take it to your opponents counts for a hell of a lot !

That was so embarrassing. I remember starting a thread on the VT last week laughing at the booklet given away with the MM programme. It showed what i thought were virtually osolete Referee signals such as feeding and prop striking for the ball. Then like something from the 1980s we set up a scrum like that despite being told THREE times to sort it out.

Grix was outstanding for me last night, Cas peppered him all night with high bombs and he handled everyone one of them and ran the ball back in - he reminded me of a certain Mr Reilly who used to play in that position !

The other backs didnt really get going which is down to Cas stifling them and the lack of attacking chances/options.

Brown and Broughy tried to create something in the 2nd half but again the Cas players had them covered and our choice of tactics were wrong last night, we tried playing them down the middle and almost seemed devoid of a plan B when it was clearly not working.

The forwards ran hard all night but were hitting brick walls with Cas shirts on and couldnt get the offloads going.

i think the conditions will have played a part but lets not forget Wheldon road with a fired up Cas side is a hell of a place to go and get a result .
We despatched Wire with ease last week so lets not get too carried away and expect that every week.

Well done to Cas though last night !!

Looking on the bright side we lost 44-18 at Cas last season so an improvement in that sense.

It was a poor performance where we were basically out-enthused and went into it expecting the result rather than earning it.

If it weren't for that frankly ludicrous VR decision we would have actually gotten a point, which we didn't deserve.

Cas played well. Just goes to show that you need to put in the effort and have the right attitude from minute one or you can walk away with nothing.

From a Cas fans view not having a pop or anything but I think its good to get other fans views;

I thought Grix was your best player last night. He took everything thrown at him and kept coming.
McGilvary - I took him out of my dream this week. What a plank, he's back in tomorrow. Finished well and is a true winger.
Lunt - apart from his sin binning, he changed the game when he came on. Much more of a threat than the starting hooker. Now that may have been fatigue but Lunt showed his class.
Flashes of brilliance were on display last night. First 10 minutes of the second Brown seemed to come to life and started playing. Unfortunately 10 minutes wasn't good enough.

Disappointing for you guys were the size of your pack and experience of your pack has should have done better. Faurmina (sp) was shocking. He's a good hooker but until last night I kept thinking, 'why have the Giants signed Ferguson?' well now I see that once he's Giants match fit he'll be in for this guy. 11 and 12 for you guys are beast but play like superstars and not workhorses that they needed to be last night.

Overall, play that game 100 times and Huddersfield would have the higher win percentage. I fully expect you guys to be top 4 this year and will look forward to watching the Giants on Sky. A couple of tweaks to the playing staff and line up and you'll be pushing for Old Trafford.

Good luck rest of the season.

Fair comment.

Well I'm ready for slitting my wrists after reading this thread. Jeez guys get a grip! Ok we had a bad day at the office (like all top teams do) from what we've started to expect from our boys, yet we lost by 6 points to a team who's fans are almost soiling themselves over how well they played. Take into consideration that Brown bombed a try and the video try given to Cas that was a joke. Then after listening to radio leeds this afternoon apparently Dixon blatantly knocked on in a Cas try and it could so easily have been us taking the 2 league points. I'd rather we have an off day at the start of the season and learn the lessons now for later on in the comp. The only downer I have is how Horne can make the team whilst Larne misses out. Heads up folks, it'll all be forgotten next week after we tonk Hull FC.

Not only are the fans soiling themselves, read the coaches comments. He's so happy you'd have thought he'd grown back his missing finger!

"it was a pretty complete performance.." x3 at least. His wife will need extra fabric softener with this weeks washing!

got to agree with ivor,meast ,daz and ponner all echoed my thoughts on the game, you dont win anything in round 2 of the season and for me overall there wasnt much in the game at all, cas adapted to the conditions much better than us and to me that was the main difference other than dodgy vrefs.

I thought you won 2 points





Just having a laugh with you

Its RL, You have to earn the right to play, And your forwards came off second best, Thats the reason you lost.

Everyone knows about our farce of a referee last week, But its actually helped the players. They know whats coming now and its speeded up our players at the play the ball dramatically, So we therefore gave very few penalties away. Which was strange for us.

We have signed very well, A lot will have gone un noticed, As we havent raided the NRL for a super star, We identified weak links, And we have signed what we needed.

We had a Stand Off who is unpredictable, But not able to control a game, So we signed a Scrum Half who can do that. Danny Orr was immense last night, We signed a reliable full back, A winger who is a proven try scorer and a couple of hard working forwards.

Who knows, Maybe the season will pan out, And you will finish lots higher than us, But i doubt it. We are a pretty solid side this year, And its no shame losing, In conditions like that it was going to be a slog.

I wouldnt say too many of your players were "Disappointing", We scored one questionable try on BOTD, And another where a player dropped the ball to another to dive on. Add to that the Cudjoe error, Kevin Brown's dropped ball, And the Richard Mathers SUPERB try saving tackle, Another day, It could have been a different story.