You do realise we only have 2 staff involved in marketing due to financial restraints? one of those is a lad fresh out of Uni, unless anyone is willing to make a significant donation or offer any services to the club then we will always struggle due to lack of money.

What do those higher up in the club do day to day Daz ? I notice at Huddersfield Town the commercial Director himself drives a lot of social media including daily updates on season ticket sales, progress at the club on commercial deals etc etc.

can certainly see the difference nowadays

but cant blame ken davy , tried in the past with the marketing but to no avail so instead of cutting the playing squad down seems hes cut the staff instead

Change of topic - anyone know where would be good to park at hull please ?

park and ride as you come off the a63, 1st exit after driving under the humber bridge signposted hessle, follow signs for village hotel, aldi on the left, park and ride on the right

walton street car park will be a nightmare to get out as the car park stewards bugger off before full time and its a free for all

As i don't actually work there or for the club i only really know what i'm told which are:

Fill the Executive boxes for our games bringing in much needed income while striking up good relations with the hope of them returning.

Sell General/matchday/kit/player sponsorship and with the player sponsorship it's the 1st time we've sold all the players before a season has started i'm led to believe.

Get out to current and potential partners and try and arrange deals with them to come on board and support us financially and get word round that we are worth dealing with.

Running the club within the budgets set with the limited finances available to them.

Employing the best staff we can, again within our budget, to give the best coaching, medical assistance, sports science, training, personal help to our players, not to mention those needed to tutor and teach our scholarship kids at the zone.

Sourcing the best deals for merchandise for the club shop, the players kit, equipment, nutrients etc

Simpler stuff like finding the best deal for the club regarding printing out programmes, fixture posters, cards, carrier bags for the club shop.

Trying to appease and convince not only their paymasters (Ken, the board) but the customers(us, the fans, the sponsors etc) that they ARE doing their best with the resources they have/haven't got.

Importantly though it's hard enough to do in this town as it is but considering we're trying to do it with a premier league football team on our shoulder, no major silverware for 50+ years, a general apathy in the town towards the club/sport, a generally negative fanbase, a lack of finance available to add more members of staff then i personally don't thnk anyone is doing a bad job at the club considering.
What i do know is that the staff i know/have dealings with and talk to are 100% devoted to the club and their job and bust a gut to make sure they have explored every avenue and option to grow this club.

Every one of them is as frustrated as the average fan, most of them are actually fans of the club too, knowing where we want the club to be but not being in a position to get there without the next step.

If you want Andrew Watson to update the club's twitter account why not ask him to? i dunno he may already do it but as that's not his role within the club then maybe not, i do know him and his team have done a very good job of filling the Exec boxes, selling sponsorships etc which as far as i know is what they are being paid to do!!!.

Brickmakers, excuse for a paaarnt after while the traffic dies

I always say it’s up to Ken he takes the losses I think it is run very poorly ( in a difficult market these days but it was poor before that) if you keep doing the same thing you get the same results and if lack of staff is now the excuse one or two people need to look in the mirror and ask why in the good times the business did not grow.

I don't think it would have taken much to host a media day, or to have an away kit - it's pretty basic stuff for a professional club in the top division of rugby league.

Regardless of who is working there, marketing and merchandising of the club should be top of the agenda after the squad.

spot on, like you sat its basic stuff , even clubs in lower divisions can get the two kits out on time

How long does it take to organise such a thing? It could be done in a few hours?

It’s not as if the start of the season comes out of the blue. They’ve had months to do this.

I could never understand why he puts up with the shoddy work on the office side.

About four/five years back they wrote to me to encourage me to buy a season ticket. Good idea. But they included a ty bit of photocopied paper with all the sponsors logos on. It was like something a village hall committee would have put together. If I were one of those sponsors I’d have been livid that they’d butchered my corporate branding.

Stuff like that isn’t hard to get right and it’s not expensive to get right.

Are there still those promotional posters up in the Packhorse showing Eorl Crabtree? “Eorl Crabtree runs with the force of a small family car” or something like that? They were certainly there last season, after he’d retired! Not expensive or time consuming to take them down.

I remember last year seeing a poster at the stadium urging me to “Join the Giants Revolution”. That campaign was in 2008 or so!

As for two people? Well I know for a fact that at the height of Bullmania there were only three people plus a summer job student in the marketing team at Bradford, all working out of a portacabin. I know because I was the summer job student.

So it’s not a lack of resources IMO. And it may not even be a lack of effort. It’s a lack of direction and strategic leadership. And it’s been going on a long time.

Ok then, well there is vacancies at the club so i suggest all you with the money and know how get in touch ASAP, you sound just like the sort of people the club have been crying out for!!

Hopefully we will see an improvement very quickly then.

I would happily work for them, but I don’t think they would pay enough to make it worth my time.

And it’s a big job. It’s much bigger than just knocking out a few tweets every day.

Daz, we all love this club, that's why we spend so much time on these boards, you no doubt have more inside knowledge than us, but our frustration is because we want to see the club progress and believe it can from a few very basic changes, we just seem to be in a downward spiral off the field and it's depressing!