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| Quote jools="jools"murphy played two games at full back last year that both stood out.
game 1 - bradford "mudfest" - murphy was extremely solid - in that game our defensive line was extremely solid, bruno made over 50 tackles and bradford didnt make any significant breaks as the going was hard work, due to the conditions the ball didnt bounce (it squelched) so kicks were long with it being difficult to chase due to the inches of mud, murphy had lots of time and space although in extremely difficult handling conditions.
Game 2 - widnes - dry and clear day on the ipitch, murphy was shocking, widnes tries all came from badly dealt with kicks where as fullback he failed to cover - he had less time and space to work with.
fullback is one of the few true specialised positions there is. I think murphys handling is better than grixs especially under pressure - but his positional awareness is poorer, and his organisation of the defensive line not as good.
we have to think about what we need from our fullback based on the conditions and the opposition we are playing........ funnily enough I also reckon that Paul Anderson is better placed to make those decisions than someone sat in the stands. hes got us to the top of the table with 5 games to go - ill bow to his better judgement.'"
Interesting how you haven't brought up when we beat Wigan earlier on in the season, beat Leeds earlier on in the season, beat saints earlier on in the season..... works two ways! |
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I think Murphy will make an excellent full back. Anyone who saw the Batley cup game will know that he kept us in the game with his great positioning and defence.
But now is not the time to change. Murphy has improved the wide defence massively this year.
Grix is an experienced full back. He has a lot of positives and even though he makes a few errors he needs to stay at full back for the rest of the season.
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| Quote GiantsForLife="GiantsForLife"Interesting how you haven't brought up when we beat Wigan earlier on in the season, beat Leeds earlier on in the season, beat saints earlier on in the season..... works two ways!'"
- murphy didn't play fullback against Wigan saints or Leeds at the start of last season -that was Eden.
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| Quote jools="jools"- murphy didn't play fullback against Wigan saints or Leeds at the start of last season -that was Eden.
I'm not sure what you are getting at'"
im getting at why your bringing up all the good games we've played with murphy playing at full back but there's a lot more with grix at full back |
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| Quote Code13="Code13"Whenever Grix isn't at Fullback you can tell
And not in a good way.
Simple fact is he is the best fullback we have got.
We've done this a million times but lets just review our recent full backs and you have to go to Paul Reilly to find one that wast slated every week.
And he was the worst of the lot!'"
Paul Reilly is a legend! wore his heart on his sleeve! Very good for us, would have him back tomorrow if he was young enough and fit enough!! |
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| Quote GiantsForLife="GiantsForLife"im getting at why your bringing up all the good games we've played with murphy playing at full back but there's a lot more with grix at full back'"
Think you better read that post again - appears you have misread it.... |
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| Quote Code13="Code13"Whenever Grix isn't at Fullback you can tell
And not in a good way.
Simple fact is he is the best fullback we have got.
We've done this a million times but lets just review our recent full backs and you have to go to Paul Reilly to find one that wast slated every week.
And he was the worst of the lot!'"
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In 2011 when we'd lost Brett to Wire we started the season with Grix at Fullback. Everyone was concerned that he wasn't strong enough for the role and he proved us all wrong.
I thing the difference this year is simple - he has been asked to play the 'Kevin Brown' role in attacking as well.
For all the fond memories of Paul Reilly you have to remember that the Full back roll has changed since 2007. We now expect an player who can be creative as well as defend.
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Plus Reillys discipline was appalling.
He would spend half of the season suspended if he played now. He would be best mates with Carney at cas probably as they would have ben meeting up at Red Hal on a weekly basis
Not that i am complaining he was great for us but was virtually playing in a different era.
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| Quote jools="jools"murphy played two games at full back last year that both stood out.
game 1 - bradford "mudfest" - murphy was extremely solid - in that game our defensive line was extremely solid, bruno made over 50 tackles and bradford didnt make any significant breaks as the going was hard work, due to the conditions the ball didnt bounce (it squelched) so kicks were long with it being difficult to chase due to the inches of mud, murphy had lots of time and space although in extremely difficult handling conditions.
Game 2 - widnes - dry and clear day on the ipitch, murphy was shocking, widnes tries all came from badly dealt with kicks where as fullback he failed to cover - he had less time and space to work with.
fullback is one of the few true specialised positions there is. I think murphys handling is better than grixs especially under pressure - but his positional awareness is poorer, and his organisation of the defensive line not as good.
we have to think about what we need from our fullback based on the conditions and the opposition we are playing........ funnily enough I also reckon that Paul Anderson is better placed to make those decisions than someone sat in the stands. hes got us to the top of the table with 5 games to go - ill bow to his better judgement.'"
You said murphy played two games at full back last year and they both stood out.... what about grix this season you haven't brought them up how he has played well and stood out against wigan, saints, leeds etc... |
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| Quote the stella kid="the stella kid"I think Murphy will make an excellent full back. Anyone who saw the Batley cup game will know that he kept us in the game with his great positioning and defence.
But now is not the time to change. Murphy has improved the wide defence massively this year.
Grix is an experienced full back. He has a lot of positives and even though he makes a few errors he needs to stay at full back for the rest of the season.'"
went unnoticed his game at full back versus batley, cleared up for us every time in a game we could of lost. |
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| Quote hudders789="hudders789"Paul Reilly is a legend! wore his heart on his sleeve! Very good for us, would have him back tomorrow if he was young enough and fit enough!!'"
ill second that, legend. |
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