At the end of the day it boils down to who is running the club we all know what the attitude is and it goes throughout the club a change is desperately needed but for some strange reason it won’t happen

To be fair we have seen the best of Danny. He fully deserved his man of steel. He was the best player in SL that season, no doubt. A great coach gets the best out of players and Anderson did that with Danny during that season. Anderson couldn't repeat the trick and neither has anyone else.

As said previously, the sooner the Brough era ends the sooner we can start to build around a new half and hopefully maybe a new style of play. The conditions at Widnes suited Danny's game, his kicks caused real problems. The problem is, as was seen against saints and to a lesser degree wakefield, we cannot open up a defence near the line if they defend kicks well. This team actually has some talented outside backs, and we need to be getting the best from them. Time to move on and try something/someone new at the end of the year.

I totally agree. Brough was an outstanding, albeit flawed, player.

But he turned 35 this year.

He’s done. Brutal, but true. Move him on with dignity.

Dont get me wrong its great to get a win and if we win next week 3 wins from 6 doesn't seem that bad.

Are we lacking fitness?

Hull - 0 points scored in 2nd half. 28 points conceded in 2nd half.
Warrington - 6 points scored in 2nd half. 0 points conceded in 2nd half
St Helens - 4 points scored in 2nd half. 12 points conceded in 2nd half.
Wakefield - 0 points scored in 2nd half. 16 points conceded in 2nd half
Widnes - 14 points scored in 2nd half. 16 points conceded in 2nd half.

Something to me certainly doesn't sit right with regards to our fitness. Very worrying really considering how bad Widnes and Warrington actually were when we played both of them teams.

Been 100% realistic here, from all the games i've witnessed so far from other clubs. Hull KR, Catalans and Widnes will be the bottom 3. It will then be a huge fight between us, Salford and Warrington to avoid the bottom 4/make top 8.

Sam Wood if not injured, has to retain is place for next week. Wigan and Saints etc always reward their youngsters and give them an extended run when they have played well, something we need to do now. Hes far better than Gaskell in that position. However, you just know Stone will more than likely keep Gaskell in the centres and brign back Turner.

If Gaskell HAS to play if be tempted to go:

1. Rankin
2. Jerry
3. Wood
4. Turner
5. Mamo
6.Gaskell
7. Brough

Mamo is great at trying to latch onto kicks etc but his passing/handling is absolutely dire and he doesn't hit the line very good. Sort of does that play where he bolts for the corner then just stop dead in his tracks and gets caught. Half tempted to try him on the wing outside Turner.

100% agree with everything regarding Brough, He still has it occasionally and gives 100% but he is no longer effective against teams with good defences who defend kicks well. We need to move on from him this year and try something new.

this... but i believe brough has signed a new deal so forget him moving on or our attack changing anytime soon

sam wood didnt look too bad with his injury, was his knee so never know

for all that he is a future second rower for us

first choice centres are cudjoe and turner when fit! oh how mcgillvary is missing cudjoe inside him with the passes.

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Smith and Dickinson both deserve to keep their place for Thursday night.

Mellor, Gaskell and Hinchliffe out

Bruno, Symonds and Turner in.

I do think Darnell deserves a chance now instead of Murphy, but won't happen unless Murphy gets injured.

maybe its different at widnes , he got injured at widnes last season , not worth the risk, we got the two points so paid off!

I don't understand this post for two reasons. How can Smith keep his place when he is suspended. Secondly why are you suggesting leaving Mellor,Hinchcliffe and Gaskell out.

Hinchcliffe will likely get a ban so the choice won’t be ours.

I meant Wood and Dickinson.

Easy.....let me explain....

Hinchliffe will be banned.
Wood and Turner are miles better than Gaskell at centre. Maybe drop Rankin then?
Symonds will probably play ahead of Mellor.

Hinchcliffe no charge to answer.