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Quote: JonnoTheGreat "Rick is a proven, quality coach who doesn't deserve this ridiculous abuse.

Get behind him.'"

This must be a joke post. Or you are related to him?! But then again, even his own mother couldn't defend such a track record.

Seriously? 'A proven quality coach'? Please, I beg you, back this up with facts. His record is absolutely abysmal, here and all before we had the displeasure. (His win ratio with us is boosted by beating featherstone, London and Batley in last year's crappy 8s let's not forget)

I am more than happy to get behind him, as long as it is on his way out of the stadium for the final time.

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How many signings has Stone personally chosen and brought to the club?
Mamo and Wakeman are the only 2 I can think of

If this is the case then questions need to be asked about your recruitment team rather than blaming the coach alone
You were garbage in 2016 under Anderson and have regressed even further in 2017 but IMO it is not only the coach that should burden the blame.

Has Ken Davy finally given up on his quest for glory and his subsequent shelling out for quality players?
You signed 4 Bulls players prior to this season in Gaskell,Clough,Ferguson and Mellor and that clearly shows the owners ambition does it not?

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Quote: The Chin's Back "How many signings has Stone personally chosen and brought to the club?
Mamo and Wakeman are the only 2 I can think of

If this is the case then questions need to be asked about your recruitment team rather than blaming the coach alone
You were garbage in 2016 under Anderson and have regressed even further in 2017 but IMO it is not only the coach that should burden the blame.

Has Ken Davy finally given up on his quest for glory and his subsequent shelling out for quality players?
You signed 4 Bulls players prior to this season in Gaskell,Clough,Ferguson and Mellor and that clearly shows the owners ambition does it not?'"


I agree with some of your post, but it seems to infer that any signings that R Stone would have made would have been good ones, Most of the new signings were Anderson's choice that's true. but RS should be able to get them above the level of Swinton " no dis ".
Have you checked out his coaching record at all.

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Quote: The Chin's Back "How many signings has Stone personally chosen and brought to the club?
Mamo and Wakeman are the only 2 I can think of

If this is the case then questions need to be asked about your recruitment team rather than blaming the coach alone
You were garbage in 2016 under Anderson and have regressed even further in 2017 but IMO it is not only the coach that should burden the blame.

Has Ken Davy finally given up on his quest for glory and his subsequent shelling out for quality players?
You signed 4 Bulls players prior to this season in Gaskell,Clough,Ferguson and Mellor and that clearly shows the owners ambition does it not?'"

Our situation is caused more by the fact that stone is unable to get the players to gel as a unit and play for each other, put their bodies on the line for each other ect. They are not playing as a unit and I see that as stones job to install this mentality and motivation into the players. When he comes out with comments like "if I had my way I would have a team full of Aussie players as I do not rate you English guys" then that is going to cause a massive rift immediately. Man management and Rick Stone are not 2 things that go together at all.

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There are a lot of parallels between you guys and Hull 7/8 years ago. Both had some success (for you a league leaders, for us a CC and a grand final), but instead of building on it poor management sees you slip down the table despite, on paper, some very good players. I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at Hudds but at Hull it was a mixture of sacking the coaches that brought us success far too prematurley, only to replace them with an utter clown, whilst cutting costs everywhere possible on facilities, back room staff and pretty much everything else. The whole culture at the club was rotten and it took nearly a decade to get us back to where we should have been and I fear you have a long road back also. Stone needs to go, hes done nothing anywhere in his career. Get rid and get the right man in and you can build from there.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "There are a lot of parallels between you guys and Hull 7/8 years ago. Both had some success (for you a league leaders, for us a CC and a grand final), but instead of building on it poor management sees you slip down the table despite, on paper, some very good players. I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at Hudds but at Hull it was a mixture of sacking the coaches that brought us success far too prematurley, only to replace them with an utter clown, whilst cutting costs everywhere possible on facilities, back room staff and pretty much everything else. The whole culture at the club was rotten and it took nearly a decade to get us back to where we should have been and I fear you have a long road back also. Stone needs to go, hes done nothing anywhere in his career. Get rid and get the right man in and you can build from there.'"


Who's the right man though dude ? Thorman and Robinson back up coaches are getting slagged off,which is fair enough.

I've not got the answer,let's go to Leeds with Jake Mamo and the rest,build on an improved SL performance from the last time.

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Quote: The Chin's Back "How many signings has Stone personally chosen and brought to the club?
Mamo and Wakeman are the only 2 I can think of

If this is the case then questions need to be asked about your recruitment team rather than blaming the coach alone
You were garbage in 2016 under Anderson and have regressed even further in 2017 but IMO it is not only the coach that should burden the blame.

Has Ken Davy finally given up on his quest for glory and his subsequent shelling out for quality players?
You signed 4 Bulls players prior to this season in Gaskell,Clough,Ferguson and Mellor and that clearly shows the owners ambition does it not?'"

Correct just 2 of them are his signings. But that is no excuse for the poor way we are set up. The squad is what it is, work with it.

We have no clue what we are doing all over the pitch, and that rests at his door along with his assistants. A poor team can be coached to perform at a certain level, and a decent coach would make changes to improve in areas that are causing problems, but there is none of this. It's the same every single week. We get rolled upfield by opposition pack every week by poor, weak defending and allowing quick play the balls/offloads, which costs us tries week in week out. When we have ball in hand, we reach their 20 line and panic as there is no structure to our play, it's all off the cuff and no one has a clue where the ball will be going from one pass to the next, until we inevitably drop it or knock on or get intercepted. I can see it, the rest of the dwindling faithful can see it, he must be able to see it, but nothing changes. I honestly am unsure whether we actually train with a ball at any point during the week.

His recent press conference said it all when he said he can't keep coming out saying the same things every week after we lose....that's right Rick, you can't, so make a change and take a look at what you are allowing to happen every week. You're in charge man, get a grip!

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Quote: Sheepridge Giant "Just chatting 'bout this int rope walk,Daniel Smith showed good form for Weakfield,so Anderson says sign him give him a long contract so no one will try to poach him.

Now,well most Fartown fans couldn't care less bout Smith,as for Ormsby,well that's another tale,can't even get int first team vs Swinton.'"

Smith was a decent player when you could not wait to sign him, send him back and we'll make him a good player again.

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Quote: Maffy "Smith was a decent player when you could not wait to sign him, send him back and we'll make him a good player again.'"




Jake Mamo now we have a FB -

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Quote: raceman "Our situation is caused more by the fact that stone is unable to get the players to gel as a unit and play for each other, put their bodies on the line for each other ect. They are not playing as a unit and I see that as stones job to install this mentality and motivation into the players. When he comes out with comments like "if I had my way I would have a team full of Aussie players as I do not rate you English guys" then that is going to cause a massive rift immediately. Man management and Rick Stone are not 2 things that go together at all.'"


He is obviously no better at it than Anderson was, In fact to me he looks like a carbon copy.

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Quote: The Chin's Back "How many signings has Stone personally chosen and brought to the club?
Mamo and Wakeman are the only 2 I can think of

If this is the case then questions need to be asked about your recruitment team rather than blaming the coach alone
You were garbage in 2016 under Anderson and have regressed even further in 2017 but IMO it is not only the coach that should burden the blame.

Has Ken Davy finally given up on his quest for glory and his subsequent shelling out for quality players?
You signed 4 Bulls players prior to this season in Gaskell,Clough,Ferguson and Mellor and that clearly shows the owners ambition does it not?'"


5 you missed obrien- mellor and o brien were stones signings....

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Love Rugby League article from Stone complaining at our lack of depth. I just find this infuriating, we have some of the best youngsters we have ever had at the club, we do have a lack of quality in the first 17 but we do have more depth than previous years.

Our team yesterday was more than good enough to beat a Swinton team with 15 fit players. It's about time Stone started taking some responsibility instead of blaming everyone and everything else..

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Ouch! That has to sting a bit. Not here to mock, I hope you can turn your season around. Your Chairman, deserves more success after the incredible work he has done over the years trying to build your club and fan base up. I genuinely don't understand why your support base isn't bigger. Good luck for the rest of the season, bar your next game icon_wink.gif

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Quote: HuddsRL5 "Love Rugby League article from Stone complaining at our lack of depth. I just find this infuriating, we have some of the best youngsters we have ever had at the club, we do have a lack of quality in the first 17 but we do have more depth than previous years.

Our team yesterday was more than good enough to beat a Swinton team with 15 fit players. It's about time Stone started taking some responsibility instead of blaming everyone and everything else..'"


So if he knows we have no depth why didn't he play a stronger side...

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