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Quote: Durham Giant "Whilst it is all speculation the problem is that there seems to be logic to it.

If NB wants a new half back and it appears he has suggested that, then Brough may fit the bill. If he sees Robbo at no 9 then a new Scrum half seems the order of the day.

NB has made the point that we need that edge in attack in the big games eg Hull and Wire this year Brough may fit the bill.

There is a lack of quality half backs to get and any you do get will cost a fortune, Finch and Lockyer are examples.

There are a number of teams who have half back problems and come the end of the season they could name their own price.

Have the Giants decided to go for Brough now rather than be in an auction for wages at the end of the season when Brough could go to Saints or HKR. Paying £50,000 transfer fee now rather than £150,000 on extra wages to secure his services at the end of the season may seem to be good buisness. This is the only logical argument for the move at present.

From Brough's point of view coming here now would make sense. With Brown as coach and playing with our pack he could have a blinding season and then be a shoe in for a trip down under at the end of the season. As much as i like Tompkins and Myler they are still too inexperienced to be a first choice half back combo at the minute.

In respect of Drew maybe the club are concerned about his injury as his come back seems to be delayed further. Could this make the signing more of an issue.

As for the players involved in the swap Aspinwall is OOC at the end of the season and Wakey need a hooker / second row. They also need a Kirmond type player, they are light in the pack and he would fit the bill for them.

I would be absolutely gutted if we lost Kirmond as i think he is a potential international . Apart from that injury last season i could have seen him being in the frame for International honours in the 4 nations. I wonder whether Lolesi might also fit the bill for wakey as they also need a big centre.

In terms of Brough i am in two minds about him.

His kicking game is awesome and his long kicks would save our pack doing 15% less work per game due to long kicking, penalties 40 - 20s etc. His short kicking game is also superb. he has pace , strength , likes to attack the line and would be a perfect foil for Brown.


BUT

His personality is an issue and i am unsure whether he will unsettle his team mates and i am unsure if he is a team player rather than an indavidual player. Our success has been through a collective rather than an indavidual approach to the game.

Whilst i am still sceptical about this rumour there are so many elements to it which seem to make a lot of sense'"


Excellent post and sums up alot.

The only thing that confused me, was why Wakey have now done a deal.Could have done it before start of season.
I would imagine that in some way its connected to the availability of Cooke.

IE Wakey now feel they have a replacement.

Broughy is good,very good on his day.Just needs to be kept in line.
If its a done deal,good luck to the lad,hes been good for Wakey and ive enjoyed watching him.But its a short career and he needs to look after himself and family.

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I hope we haven't paid a fee for a player we're not desperate for. Like GiantJo said, I'm sure it's our stated policy that we don't pay transfer fees for first team players.

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the terms this time will suite us , im afraid your club as screwed up big time. no troll just honesty'"

But you don't know what's happened. You just know what you've been told. And in fairness the rumour mill at Wakefield has more imagination than Tolkien.

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I wonder if Kirkmond is being touted because of this joke between myself and someone who I cannot name on a different forum

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If we are signing Brough - how long before he's match fit?

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Quote: MUTLEY CAT "i agree that if your club was stupid enough to allow potential such as kirkmond leave then you will taking a massive backward step and as a wakey fan i would be very happy to see him in a wakey shirt , but danril be sensible about this you have probably the best team in the league at the moment so why would you take danny brough when you dont at this moment in time need him?

the terms this time will suite us , im afraid your club as screwed up big time. no troll just honesty'"



Nice try at polishing a turd but no one's buying it.

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Quote: Wadski "I wonder if Kirkmond is being touted because of this joke between myself and someone who I cannot name on a different forum:



It would not surprise me in the least.

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Quote: MUTLEY CAT "thanks for stumping up the cash for a player you could off had for free , the truth is out there just cos i ain't dumb enough to spout it out on a forum
Off? Do you mean 'have'?

Poor lil wakey fan. Pretenting there is some 'sizable' transfer cash. The Giants are not the Wolves. However wakey have had some problems paying their way. They even faced a humiliating winding up order. Looks more like a desperate attempt to cut their overall wage bill.

You say you "ain't dumb". Your posts prove otherwise. Keep digging. icon_biggrin.gif

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Just tell me that Kirmond's going nowhere. Please.

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Quote: Durham Giant "

Have the Giants decided to go for Brough now rather than be in an auction for wages at the end of the season when Brough could go to Saints or HKR. Paying £50,000 transfer fee now rather than £150,000 on extra wages to secure his services at the end of the season may seem to be good buisness. This is the only logical argument for the move at present.


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I take you have never attended forums etc when the senior people at the club have stated they would not pay transfer fees for established players. And the ONLY logical argument is the one you cobble together icon_rolleyes.gif

Try another. HKR /Morgan do not want to keep Cooke. Bringing Clinton in means they would be over the cap so need to move 'someone on'. Wakey get Cooke with HKR paying a large proportion of his wages. Wakey now move Brough on and make a net saving on salaries paid. If the Giant(s) moving to Trin are more than covered by newton's wage and a bit of brough money then Trin have 2/3 players and save some cash. If the Giants want Brough and if he is available then they would take a look at the options. I could give you other logical arguments but that wil do for now.

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I know Aspers had an offer made for him by a club and Brown said he wanted him to stay and fight for a start as I'm sure I read that somewhere. He is also OOC at the end of the season and his salary will be pretty good as he'd just extended his deal before his knee went. Horne is another one OOC at the end of the season and, to me, these are the sort of players we should be thinking of allowing to leave IF there is any deal in the offing.

I just think Brown and our board are too canny to let Kirmond go. I don't think Kirmond would want to go either.

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I also remember being at a meeting where Davy, Morgan and Thewlis were answering questions and it was stated that the days of paying fees for first teamers were over.

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Some of the wakey posters are beneath contempt. they are raking up Brough's private financial details! They are pitiful.

Also they question his 'off field activities' yet rejoice at signing Cooke (you couldn't make this up).

Finally they are claiming brough was poor versus the Giants because he was signing for us......what is the excuse for the other 16 who played(I hope to god we are not signing that lot icon_rolleyes.gif )

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Quote: GiantJo "
Poor lil wakey fan. Pretenting there is some 'sizable' transfer cash. The Giants are not the Wolves. However wakey have had some problems paying their way. They even faced a humiliating winding up order. Looks more like a desperate attempt to cut their overall wage bill. '"


If the rumour does turn out to be true, taking into account what people on our board (who are worth listening to) are saying, then the general consensus is that we offered Brough a very decent amount.

Hardly the actions of a club desperate to cut a wage bill eh?

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Why would Wakefield want to save money on their wage bill? Newton's wage has already come off, Cooke's (if he signs) will be partly paid by KR.

Brough would only be allowed to leave if a transfer fee have been received or players have been offered in return. Also, how would Huddersfield fit Brough's wage under the salary cap if no players were to make way for his signature?

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