I said the lack of numbers coming through the gates doesn't help our finances, finances which naturally enable us to attract better people, be they players, coaches, conditioners, marketing people, or even a new CEO!
I have no idea where you get the idea i am blaming anyone for anything?? Yes Thewlis has messed things up in the past and that is for the Chairman and the board to decide what the future holds for him, not really sure what that has to do with my post though.

Maybe not - but get em onboard and we could all "bring a friend" ------ easypeasy !

I agree that we have to have a squad, The trouble is a few of our so called first picks are squad players, I admit that we have players who have gone backwards Under the last coach, and that may well be rectified with the new one, But we have some players who were average at best when we signed them, and have remained so.

My point was that when you start talking about settling for signing lesser players, who have been around a few years , you are IMO on the slippery slope.

Why do we want to keep signing players who we (Let go, allowed to go, couldn't stop going, whatever ) years ago, do we think the championship has made them good enough now.

Sky is far and away the biggest form of income for all the clubs, More fans are very desirable to be sure, But spending the money far more wisely is also desirable, Perhaps a good place to start is to save some in the board room, They have hardly been setting anything on fire any more than the team.

which first choice picks are squad players?

brierley
mcgillvary
cudjoe
gaskell
ormsby

brough
ellis
wood

crabtree
rapira
ikahiifo
hinchcliffe
symonds

taai
smith
huby
lawrence


left players out like murphy, mason, johnson, wardle, roberts, simpson, sam wood and leeming too, strong team for next season

At the risk of bringing grief upon myself. Gaskell, Ellis, wood, have all been around a long time without ever rising above ordinary. They are all capable of having good games from time to time. I'm not saying they are poor players, They are just not first choice for an ambitious team. Not seen that much of Gaskell, but he is where he is.

Crabtree is past his best, and has said himself he is finding it hard, A wasted talent IMO.

Huby needs to get back to what he was at Cas, May happen with a new coach.

Smith never stood out in any way for me.

I have no issue with your "left out players " Murphy has been around a long time , and has proved he is a good squad player. The others all show potential, again all about coaching and opportunity.

best break the salary cap rules then and bring in the likes of billy slater and thurston for every position

Signing half the team that's made it to the dizzy heights of 5th in the championship.

I know we're your feeder club but if you keep signing Bulls players you'll end up watching the Bulls.

We need a clear out though because some of the performances this season have been pathetic. If we can offload some of the better ones to teams in a different division that's a bonus I guess.

You're not even our feeder club, Wakefield are

Or just stop signing players that couldn't claim a place in other teams.

looks like clough is fave out of gaskell and ferguson to arrive at the giants next season

thought it was the prop who made his name at st helens!

Lots would have said that about Luke Gale a couple of years ago- now he's the bees knees......

Yes I agree jools and I have said many times a good coach can sometimes transform a player, but we have not had that kind of coach have we, Powell has done it with a few players, Lets hope our new coach has the knack.