HE IS GARBAGE GET RID NOW - Nathan Brown should walk aswell, An absolute disgrace both of them. Lost 8 out of 9 games both ineffectual 'leaders' and I use the word leaders very losely indeed.

I can't even see the team making the top 8 based on current form.

Both browns have given good service to the club in the last few years but im afraid now it looks like they hve totally lost the plot and i think they should be both given a rest along with a few others!

agree with kevin brown leaving now but not the coach, most posters on here have been calling for brown back at stand off and grix at full back great thinking that was eh, both were woeful today as was gilmour for me, but overall i thought there was a massive improvement from recent performances, get eden back at full back pronto and robbo at scrum half brough at six and we could still mount a decent end of season, thought leroy and jerry played very well too. how much do we miss wardle at centre though we really need another class half back though , over to you baloo and mr thewlis, wont hold my breath though.

also pity mr thewlis decided to run with a large squad of average players, rather than offer 2 year contracts to players such as bodgy who today was outstanding for wire.

HE MAY HAVE LEFT BECAUSE OF NB IF RUMOURS ARE TO BE BELIEVED.

not the rumours i hear

I didn't watch the game today, and i haven't seen hudds play since they were at the stobart stadium.. But i think kevin brown is a decent player.. I find its hard to blame 1/2 players when the whole team is playing below average.. As already mentioned on here since scott moore has joined you have won 1 and lost 8? Coincidence since widnes have started getting results (even if not winning games are competitive).. Ok, i agree on the pitch scott moore is a decent player, But behind the scenes? He is an absolute nightmare... Possibly moore (quick joke), happening behind the scenes than on the pitch.. (clearly)...

get a tape of today and brown at cas and tapes for most games this year. then come back on here and explain how KB was decent this year. Or just watch brett hodgson's try today and see how dreadful Kb can be.

we have scott moore til the end of the year...you have KB for 4 years...oh dear.

Awful showing again from our 'captain' - just what has happened to him ?

Suspect you're the only one hearing [ithose[/i rumours.

maybe but most of the rumours i do hear do actually become fact, this time i may be wrong though doesnt really matter now though to be honest bodgy left 2 years ago to a lot of abuse from certain sections of our fans, as nb is now having the same problems.

A captain should either lead with passion or example, Brown is only capable of one in all honesty and neither on occasions. I'm sorry to say giving him the armband was a mistake regardless him leaving, but he's not the route of all our problems, just one of a few.

They looked like skeletons. No passion, no drive, nothing! You see some captains, when under the posts, giving a motivational talk, bollocking folk etc. Our captain can't do that because 2 of yesterdays tries were because of his shocking defence!! You'd have to say wire were good yesterday, hats off to them. They ve got 3 - 4 leaders on their team, we ve got no one!!

From an outsider watching the game on TV yesterday I thought Huddersfield most importantly lost the battle up front as your forwards could barely break a tackle & were getting smashed by 3 WIRE men tackling virtually every time. I like Mason and Crabtree but they were ineffective. With no go forward your off form backs struggled even more.

I do think that K.Brown and Grix had very poor games though. For me Greg Eden should have remained at full back as he looks very good, quick & would have posed more of an attacking threat than Grix. Thought Murphy was poor on the wing as well, made a few mistakes and does not seem to have the pace to play that position. Again Eden could have played there if not full back.

I know this goes onto another thread but I'm also surprised that Coach Brown has gone public with the player power thing & a change of attack options? Seems really unprofessional there must be trouble at mill . St. Helens will be thinking they've made the wrong decision signing him up for next year