pack poor yet again send mr crabtree to batley next year for a few games maybe it will relight his fire put kev brown back to 4 with out brett hes been fondout this year try simpson at 6 .problem for next season almost all the team on long contracts winning 4 out of what 13 should sound alarm bells

Ill discipline and a slow start cost you, in the form of penalties and poor play when you had the ball. You had energy sapped out of you that made it too hard to come back, especially with a weakened side.

It was like watching the Bulls.

to be honest watching it on tv i think ganson giving warrington all the penaltys in the first 15mins lost you the game because once they got in front you werent getting back into it i thought the scoreline flattered them a bit

Ganson was poor. The players were poorer.

seems like the coach not wanting to be here has rubbed off on the players.

NB lost the plot, Brown is not a standoff and never has been, more 2nd rowers than owt else and still signing more.

Next year will be the will he won't he season again, sorry to say time to get shut and don't know who but get someone in who at least wants to be here and give his all!!!!

where the hell is this clamour for simpson to play satnd off come from? i was one of kevin browns biggest critics when he moved to stand off but if you are going to replace him at stand off get some one who it is their specialised position, has anyone ever seen simpson play stand off?

nothing wrong with kev brown at stand off for me... one of our 'quality' players

can talk all you want about moving brown to centre but it wont happen... especially with nathan brown in charge

you would of to drop wardle or cudjoe to fit brown at centre too which is a no go

get me a better stand off than kev brown in our squad then i will happily move him back to the centres...till then he is and will continue to be our stand off ...and a pretty decent one at that !

Spot on!! I've been more disappointed with some of our performances than that this season. Every bounce of the ball went against us and every 50/50 decision went against. Add to that the start Ganson provided for Wire it's hardly surprising they nearly scored 50. I've knocked our effort a lot in the last few months but last night wasn't one of them. Why does Ganson have to act like such an arrogant tosspot?

The first penalty in the game went against wire. But Wire never had to get out of their half due to Giants giving easy penalties. The first was a simple hands on a player not needed. Wire were buried in the corner and five meters out. After that Wire never really handled the ball in there own twenty. Some where gaints have lost that intensity and discipline. Brown is no stand off but he is not the cause of your change of fortunes. You did perfectly well with him last year and the first half of this.

Much like Myler losing the ground against Grix,so scragged Scott around neck as he got up to ptb causing the ball to go forward off his foot.Not needed.The outcome,scrum to Warrington in great field position that led to a try to make it 10 nil.

This is the infuriating thing now,some refs obviously are brainwashed into this idea that the lower ranked team are only here to stop the top ranked team from displaying their array of skills,and then turn a blind eye to the top rank indiscretions.

McRae called it exactly right in commentary after that opening penalty against Lawrence,if Ganson is giving pens like that in the opening exchanges then he has to be consistent with that type of interpretation for the rest of the game,and guess what he wasn't.Yes he could have pinged us again later in the contest for similar,but he also could have pinged Warrington and he didn't.

Warrington were putting second efforts in all game and didn't get pulled up for it.

At one point Ganson warned us saying "when I say move you've got go get up" well true to his word if we didn't he penalised us.

When we had possession he shouted move and Wire pushed the ball carrier onto his back and then got up...

Hard to score against that.

Absolutely ^