That's 12 men not 10 !!!!

Good spot. To be honest, I didn't look that far down. Either way, Saints defence has been exceptional this season (or at least, exceptional as Saints' defences usually go).

Our problem is having no attack to speak of pretty much all year.

I wish I didn't have to look that far down!

It's tight in the middle and a good run will get us up to maybe 5th or 6th at the time of the split but I can't see where that run is going to come from given our propensity to panic and parp at key moments (at best) and sometimes just not turn up at all.

Yes i did see Masoe get yellow carded

how many fingers and toes did you use to work out that we were left with only 10 players at that point

IMO, Huddersfield's strength is Huddersfield's weakness: Brough.

Ouch! what would the score have been had you played a decent team, perhaps you might get a bit more pleasure if you changed from a size 9 to an 8

hi chissitt would rather lose 8-11 to the champions than 80-0 to a team who couldn't buy a win

ok so i meant 12, but most people would realise what i meant, i am also a follower of footie so simple mistake! and before i get the anti football brigade i have been a giants fan for over 20 years and only follow football, Giants are my team, but to go back to my original point, devoid of various attacking ideas is mainly down to the coach. ad lib ideas are onfield but the attacking plays that are pre planned are not good enough at the moment even if we execute them pefectly, they are seen a mile off so keep saying that the players are at fault but the buck stops with anderson, who i think has done a great job but he cant take us any further and his ideas have been found out as he doesnt seem to have a plan B!

So you are saying if we had thrown and caught passes/kicks correctly we still wouldn't have scored?

I think you may be right

Wow, some pretty out there views based on the back of a game against last years champions (who are 2nd in the table now), in awful conditions. Granted, were not playing Harlem globetrotter stuff at the minute, but were far from as bad as some are making out on here. Our defence at times was outstanding in that game. We got numbers in, took them on down the middle, when we jumped the line we invariably judged it right and they rarely got a roll on. Now, I don't think this is a vintage saints side overall , but their pack is top drawer. And we stood up big time.

Personally I think we have improved overall performance from last year. We were powderpuff at times last year, where packs were just slicing through us. That has changed. Attack wise we are still struggling. But sacking baloo now? No chance. We have no divine right to be up there. Win a few and were right back in it . Let's not forget also, that defence is coached also; structure, tactics , ethos. If not more than attack. Baloo deserves credit for this.

Today, I though most of the chances that we bombed were poor execution of the right idea, and the final kick or pass marginally missing its target, as opposed to aimlessly off loading or outright panicking when within touching distance of the try line. Particularly first half when we were actually trying to build pressure rather than score every set. Again, this was an improvement from the very start of this season and last season.

Maybe I'm a glass Half fuller, and I admit we do need to improve our attacking plays, but sack baloo now? No. Review at end of season, but stick with the big man now.

I kind of agree that sacking him now isn't going to help matters but I totally understand the frustration. Alas, for me, the issue is leadership on the pitch. A calming influence when the tension rises and things come to a head.

Brough is a great player, no doubt, but he is no captain. We don't have that sort of player though. If we did, well, we wouldn't be where we are in the league at the moment.

We are one player short of a great, great team.

So brough not being captain would make us a better team? What one sort of player would make us a great team as u say danril ?