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| Homme vaste is a wakey fan
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| Quote: homme vaste "Why is it automatically assumed that revenue is the only element people are alluding to when talking about away fans?
Would rather go to a game with a bit of atmosphere, and actually enjoy seeing and having a chat with away fans on game day (Most of them) rather than staring at a empty away stand with silence when there team score.
By the way your calculations are completely wrong, I think every Hudds fan on here will agree when I say they brought way more than 250 fans to Belle Vue on there visits this season, probably closer to 1000. Leigh also usually turn out in good numbers of around 1000, so straight away your estimation would go from 500 to 2000 - Where are you factoring in food and drink in your calculations? Our chairman has openly said drinks is one of our biggest revenue streams so just wondering how much of that is from the away fans? Please enlighten us? Also where does your figure of £15 come from?£25 for an adult ticket, £10 for a Junior - Even if you split Adult/Juniors 50/50 you still would get an average of £17.50 and it is nowhere near the 50/50 - At a wild guess (As yours purely is) I would say closer to 80/20 Adult to Junior ratio, giving on average of around £22.
Still not a massive amount of revenue, but don`t try falsely manipulating figures to suit your agenda.'" If the Rl keep to the present system of 12 teams it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the Toulouse team could be promoted to SL in 2021 thus having four teams who will bring very few spectators through the gates we will then see how much away support is vital to most clubs.Finance through the gates from away teams is most vital to each and every club so lets not kid ourselves that it isn't.My own thoughts on this would be to increase SL up to 16 or even 18 clubs and bring in Fev Leigh Bulls Toulouse then stop promotion and relegation.Also radical as it may seem start to look at clubs who cannot generate a reasonable income from their own efforts a knock on effect would be a few of the better players would move up to the more affluent team which could bolster the proposed A teams and academies.
As I said radical but it has been happening in industry for years ,also look at Bury and other FA clubs.There are problems in this but I personally can see no other way in the near future.
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| Quote: GIANTSRL "what did you want them to do?
hands are pretty much tied with salary cap, they tried to offload roberts and swap for hampshire recently but player changed mind.'"
Fair enough then but all the other teams who are in the danger zone have all made some attempt to bolster their chances, all except Leeds being in worse financial position than us. But to be fair i cant blame Mr Davy if he has said enough is enough, and i,m not surprised Hampshire didn't want to come.
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| Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Fair enough then but all the other teams who are in the danger zone have all made some attempt to bolster their chances, all except Leeds being in worse financial position than us. But to be fair i cant blame Mr Davy if he has said enough is enough, and i,m not surprised Hampshire didn't want to come.'"
we couldnt bolster as are upto the cap
we tried to swap but it didnt work out
what we did do is hope that the senior injured players come back and hope london keep losing! ferguson came back.... cudjoe came back....wardle came back we know what happened.
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| Quote: Jo Jumbuck "Fair enough then but all the other teams who are in the danger zone have all made some attempt to bolster their chances, all except Leeds being in worse financial position than us. But to be fair i cant blame Mr Davy if he has said enough is enough, and i,m not surprised Hampshire didn't want to come.'"
How do you know what financial position others are in? And financial Position is not necessarily linked to ability to spend on the cap.l
Wigan have never been in a poor financial position- but have cheated the cap three times!
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| Quote: jools "How do you know what financial position others are in? And financial Position is not necessarily linked to ability to spend on the cap.l
Wigan have never been in a poor financial position- but have cheated the cap three times!'"
True jools but it worked and kept them from relegation in one of the cases, The last time the Giants cheated didn't it cost them half a million to Mason and £20.000 to the bulls, somebody was really doing a good job there.
Wigan went from owning the iconic Central park to paying rent where they are now , are you sure they have never been in a poor financial position.
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| Mason didn`t receive half a million. We lost the case, but we stood on a matter of principle, which is hard to criticise..
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| But the judge, Mr Justice Saffman, said there was "clear evidence" the Giants wanted Mason off their books, including emails outlining lucrative transfers to coax the prop away from his team.
167 k plus 35k court costs
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| Quote: djhudds "But the judge, Mr Justice Saffman, said there was "clear evidence" the Giants wanted Mason off their books, including emails outlining lucrative transfers to coax the prop away from his team.
167 k plus 35k court costs'"
Yes they wanted him off the books. On a matter of principle. He had, at least twice, broken player conduct rules.
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| Sounds like internet hearsay, a court of law ruled different
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| Quote: jools "Yes they wanted him off the books. On a matter of principle. He had, at least twice, broken player conduct rules.'"
And you talk about propaganda, So what you are saying then is, to uphold this principal " whatever it was " they decided to cheat and were caught and found guilty. Great managment.
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| Quote: jumper "Mason didn`t receive half a million. We lost the case, but we stood on a matter of principle, which is hard to criticise..'"
Fair enough, and the principal of illegally poaching a Bradford player ? We wos framed guv.
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| Quote: jools "Yes they wanted him off the books. On a matter of principle. He had, at least twice, broken player conduct rules.'"
And when the judge found the Giants guilty of not providing court documents in line with a court order whose fault was that. masons. ?
If a judge says you provide documents you provide them and the Giants didn’t and then had to be ordered again and as a result of that had to pay extra money for trying to avoid giving information to the court.
That is incompetence or naivety of the highest level.
That was nothing to do with principle or Mason.
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| Or received poor legal advice.
Of course this was all RTs fault- as he alone made the decision you know this as fact yeah?
Just like he made the decision to “let go” all those brilliant players everyone moans about letting go , (but clearly he did not sign those brilliant players in the first place)
oh but he does sign all the poor players..... just none of the good ones.
All those moaning about RT was the reason for signing mellor and how wrong it was signing championship players- then the same ones moaning RT is “letting him go” it’s more than a joke- it’s farcical.
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| Any you know who made the decision ? More hearsay
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