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Quote: GIANT DAZ "I cant believe the club have actually come out and defended their decision with all this morals crap - yes we are a family club but they are also a business who have broken rules and being found guilty of breaking rules !!

They should be apologising to the fans, the sponsors, the local community etc for

As a fan I do feel ashamed of what has happened at our club, we seemed to be moving in the right direction but behind closed doors the club's management has been a shambles. I genuinely felt that if we could win one piece of silverware this season, combined with a decent season ticket offer for next year we could push on and increase our crowds.

I am generally a very positive person, but can't help but think this whole fiasco is going to set us back quite a lot both on and off the field.

Add to that Ken standing by us being wrong, you can't help but think things might get even worse.

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Quote: brearley84 "EDited not the best time to be making allegations which may have legal implications mick'"


what about your comments about griffin?

i didnt even say anything... all about the cola and fanta that hock used to have icon_smile.gif

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a few decisions by the club this pre season prob prepared us for losing and paying this fine off...

odonnell released... he was on circa 200k a year, that will cover a fair chunk!

also

greg eden, he had his contract renewed after being labelled the new billy slater, so say he was on 50k a year? with the new contract if not more? and hull kr paid us a fee for him too so we could of already got the money stashed away to pay mason off.

still a shame as it could of gone elsewhere!

whoever decided to pay mason 95k a season needs some talking to aswell and maybe his wages dropping ...thewlis!? nathan brown would of had a big say in masons contract too at the time wanting to keep him.

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Quote: wakeyrule "Ha!

Well if you're happy with the comment not being libellous. It's not as if you've a history of legal errors......'"


I'm not a mod - its not my cojones on the chopping blocks.

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I was wondering about the Griffin stuff. Didn't hear about that on this side of the hills.

As for Mason not winning anything. He did play for Saints once upon a time when we had a decent side. So he must have a CC medal somewhere.


The whole thing looks as big a shambles as our attempts to find a half back. It's a shame for you that in a year when on the field is going about as good as it's got for some years. Off the field it's been a bit of a Carry On sketch.

I'm sure the bill will be footed though, should not impact on the field.

The sacking for a bum pic was a bit of a gimme for Mason, given the whole club does mad monday. Our Perry got a ticking off for a naked run, but that was from a copper not the club

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I have just been back on the Giants website to read the 'club statement'. Yep, it's still the same. It shouldn't be. The management of the club needs a serious shake-up. At best Davy is being misled. At worst, he has lost the plot.

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Quote: brearley84 "what about your comments about griffin?

i didnt even say anything... all about the cola and fanta that hock used to have

Because he did it and was convicted in court !!!!



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Quote: brearley84 "what about your comments about griffin?

i didnt even say anything... all about the cola and fanta that hock used to have

Because he did it and was convicted in court !!!!



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What a nasty piece of work.

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OK Bulls will get nothing. Any payment should go to old Bills to pay off their creditors or maybe the fans of other clubs who dug deep to save their club....including many on here.

At least you'll be comfortably aware where our portion of your Sky cash went.

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Whoever sanctioned both of these issues should walk.

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OK SORRY IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID FIRST OF ALL.

Ignoring the issues about Koppy, how much the players earned, being BELOW the salary cap, the issue of the picture is still completely and utterly wrong. I understand the Judge has said that these might relate to the reasons but I just want to discuss the original reason if possible.

The judge has ruled that a personal twitter account has NO relation to the club. I am sure the gentleman at Bradford bulls who was sacked for posting a picture on his twitter account or if you Google Twitter and Sacked the numerous others that have been sacked would like to comment on this. Plus the fact the players in ALL sports who have been fined for posting remarks about refs/players etc. Has this judge set a president that they can say what they want as its not the clubs account.

As a father and fan of Rugby League not just the Giants i would hope that these supposed Celebrities (and lets not move away from the fact that Mason has used a Celebrity to get this court case more visible) should have a responsibility to their fans/public/sponsors who pay their wages. In today's modern age of social media our children are using the likes of Facebook/Twitter and do we want to see pictures of this nature. Not forgetting this wasn't a mooning or a but crack this was a full blown close up.

If i for one posted something like this i know my employers would pull me up on it as i have customers/staff/suppliers following me and no matter what you say if you talk about work or use your account in anyway this IS bringing the club/sport and other players into disrepute.

I wont comment on Koppy as i don't know what has been said/done or not. But I would stand by the actions if they have followed the correct procedure and this wasn't the first instance (so warning had been given, written warning and then your off. Or if they deem this as gross misconduct). End of the day we want more children watching this fantastic game and with Football having such Celebrities (Rooney with his Grannies, Suarez making racial comments, Giggs and his brothers wife) do we really need this bad publicity in our support in the World Cup Year.

PLEASE NOTE THESE ARE MY OWN COMMENTS AND NOT THAT OF MY FAMILY, RUGBY CLUB, COMPANY OR RELIGION.

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Quote: roger daly "I haven't read all the pages on this topic so forgive me if I'm wrong and no doubt you will tell me but why the hell has this about Griffin been put on this topic

I think what Hudds have done is very poor,obviously Kopzack has been told to lie,who by?

Is it Sir Ken,Thewlis,anyone else involved what you guys know about?

I really hope the bulls get a good few quid out of this

Looks like big Kopzack will be a very very expensive signing

And to be honest I'm glad'"


The Griffin topic is related to what is and what isn't a sackable offense.

As far as I understand it, the RFL investigated and got to the bottom of it, made the Giants pay £20k compensation and that was the end of it; with regards to compensation for the Bulls.

Now if the RFL have been lied to, then they may take it up with the Giants; but it won't have anything to do with the Bulls or further compensation.

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RFL now launching an Enquiry into the Kopczak deal.

From the T and A

'*The RFL are to examine evidence given at Leeds Crown Court during Keith Mason’s successful legal fight with Huddersfield this week.

It was revealed that Craig Kopczak verbally agreed to join the Giants on August 8 – a month before controversially walking out on Bulls.'

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Yet their brave bid came to a stunning end when Cudjoe stepped out of the defensive line to intercept a pass and then run away for a 90-metre effort. (Times 2) Roses are red Violets are purple The Giants are sweeter than Maple Surple.:



I've kept schtumm over this issue but feel the need to intercede in some small way,

Many so called Giants supporters appear to be enjoying seeing the club being dragged through the muck, and are taking sadistic pleasure in adding their twopenn'rth.

Then we have the trolls from Bradford and Wakey having a go, (that may stem from the grief we gave them over the last couple of seasons, which in both cases is far from finished.)

Finally can any SL Club say, with absolute honesty, that they have never made an approach to a target player that did not, in any way, infringe the restrictions imposed by the RFL.

Come on people get real, the management have been found out and are going to suffer the consequences, but this is our team, let's not make it any more difficult than it already is.

COYG.

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